[Wikimediaindia-l] The first legal threaten against Wikipedia India !

Sat Feb 26 09:19:08 UTC 2011

Not really!

We are closely following another case on another Wikipedian ( yes , in India
) who was reverting the removal of controversial section by the company
itself ( not even with logged username, but as IP editor) on its Wikipedia
article and now facing cyber crime charges and an FIR is already in place.
 You may want to talk to him and will know it is not easy and simple as you
may think, especially going to the police station each time.

My note on this below incident was originally sent to a closed mailing list
and wasn't really meant to be forwarded to publicly archived mailing list.
Just to clarify.

Thanks
Tinu Cherian

On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Theo10011 <de10011 at gmail.com> wrote:

> heh, this seems like a gross over-reaction to a facebook post. You are
> giving this person undue attention by even mentioning this in a publicly
> archived mailing list. If the foundation were to pay attention to every
> random forum posting or allegations like this it would never find the time
> to do anything else.
>
> Ask any OTRS volunteer about threats like these, this is nothing compared
> to the threats we get on a daily basis.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Srikanth Lakshmanan <srik.lak at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> While legal counsel might be important, I think the blowing the facebook
>> comments out of proportion IMHO is WP:UNDUE.
>>
>> Regards
>> Srikanth.L
>> http://srik.me
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 09:31, Gautam John <gautam at prathambooks.org>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Tinu:
>>>
>>> Thanks for posting this - yes, legal counsel and a risk assessment is
>>> something we are actively looking at doing - a question, would the community
>>> know if this has ever happened or threatened to happen earlier or is this
>>> the first example?
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Gautam
>>> ________
>>> http://social.prathambooks.org/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 26 February 2011 08:44, CherianTinu Abraham <tinucherian at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Here you go ! The first legal threaten against Wikipedia India !
>>>>
>>>> To set the context to those who were not  reading the thread of
>>>> WikimediaIndia facebook page,
>>>>
>>>> Basavaraj Itnal [1] is a senior journalist from Bangalore. He is in
>>>> a campaign against an alleged land-grabbing and scam by a popular mall owner
>>>> in Bangalore. He did write articles on this in the publications he is
>>>> associated with. He even added information earlier to Wikipedia article of
>>>> Garuda Mall [2] and apparently was blocked once ( by an Indian admin with a
>>>> pseudo name ? ) .
>>>> He also attended one of the Bangalore Wiki-meetups recently. After that
>>>> he shifted to focus to fight his POV to Wikimedia India Facebook recently.
>>>> [3] and also pushing it on the article [4] . Of late he is threatening to
>>>> sue Wikipedia and Wikimedia admins. Knowing his aggressiveness, i don't
>>>> think he can be taken lightly.
>>>>
>>>> I am not sure whether he is intending to sue against the Wikimedia
>>>> Foundation, ( office in India ) or India chapter or individuals from India
>>>> who are admins ( OMG, that includes me :) )
>>>>
>>>> Time for a legal contact in India ?
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Tinu Cherian
>>>>
>>>> P.S.I couldn't find the contact mail id of Geoffrey Brigham, the new
>>>> legal counsel of the Foundation.
>>>>
>>>> [1] http://twitter.com/#!/basavarajitnal
>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/basavaraj-itnal/23/a9b/4b9
>>>> http://www.facebook.com/people/Basavaraj-Itnal/100000540087375
>>>> [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garuda_Mall
>>>> [3] http://www.facebook.com/WikimediaIndia?sk=wall&filter=12
>>>> [4]
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Garuda_Mall&action=historysubmit&diff=410530901&oldid=410529958
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 12:24 AM, Facebook <
>>>> update+mh17p3hd at facebookmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  facebook<http://www.facebook.com/n/?WikimediaIndia%2Fposts%2F184893818213619&mid=3d1f826G29075287G520915G37&bcode=Qp9JF&n_m=tinucherian%40gmail.com>
>>>>> Hi Cherian,
>>>>> Basavaraj Itnal commented on WikimediaIndia's wall post.
>>>>> Basavaraj wrote: "anyways, while i respect what you guys are doing, i
>>>>> am actively looking for a legal recourse to make wiki admins accountable and
>>>>> available to legal action. as for Garuda issue is concerned after doubting
>>>>> the veracity of my documents without verifying them and without again cross
>>>>> checking with the govt, they just made a small correction saying Garuda Mall
>>>>> land is owned by bruhat bengaluru mahanagar palike. :)"
>>>>>
>>>>> See the comment thread<http://www.facebook.com/n/?WikimediaIndia%2Fposts%2F184893818213619&mid=3d1f826G29075287G520915G37&bcode=Qp9JF&n_m=tinucherian%40gmail.com>
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