Not really!<div><br></div><div>We are closely following another case on another Wikipedian ( yes , in India ) who was reverting the removal of controversial section by the company itself ( not even with logged username, but as IP editor) on its Wikipedia article and now facing cyber crime charges and an FIR is already in place. You may want to talk to him and will know it is not easy and simple as you may think, especially going to the police station each time. </div>
<div><br></div><div>My note on this below incident was originally sent to a closed mailing list and wasn't really meant to be forwarded to publicly archived mailing list. Just to clarify.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks</div>
<div>Tinu Cherian </div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Theo10011 <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:de10011@gmail.com">de10011@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
heh, this seems like a gross over-reaction to a facebook post. You are giving this person undue attention by even mentioning this in a publicly archived mailing list. If the foundation were to pay attention to every random forum posting or allegations like this it would never find the time to do anything else.<div>
<br></div><div>Ask any OTRS volunteer about threats like these, this is nothing compared to the threats we get on a daily basis. <br></div><div><div></div><div class="h5"><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_quote">
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On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Srikanth Lakshmanan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:srik.lak@gmail.com" target="_blank">srik.lak@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
While legal counsel might be important, I think the blowing the facebook comments out of proportion IMHO is WP:UNDUE. <br clear="all"><br><div>Regards<br>Srikanth.L<br><a href="http://srik.me" target="_blank">http://srik.me</a><br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div></div><div>On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 09:31, Gautam John <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gautam@prathambooks.org" target="_blank">gautam@prathambooks.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Hi Tinu:<div><br></div><div>Thanks for posting this - yes, legal counsel and a risk assessment is something we are actively looking at doing - a question, would the community know if this has ever happened or threatened to happen earlier or is this the first example? </div>
<div><br>Thank you.<br><br>Best,<br><br>Gautam<br>________<br><a href="http://social.prathambooks.org/" target="_blank">http://social.prathambooks.org/</a><br><br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 26 February 2011 08:44, CherianTinu Abraham <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tinucherian@gmail.com" target="_blank">tinucherian@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Here you go ! The first legal threaten against Wikipedia India ! </font><div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div>
<div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">To set the context to those who were not reading the thread of WikimediaIndia facebook page,</font></div><div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"></font><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif"> </span></div>
<div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span>Basavaraj Itnal [1] is a senior journalist from Bangalore. He is in a campaign against an alleged land-grabbing and scam by a popular mall owner in Bangalore. He did write articles on this in the publications he is associated with. He even added information earlier to Wikipedia article of Garuda Mall [2] and apparently was blocked once ( by an Indian admin with a pseudo name ? ) . </span></font></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif">He also attended one of the Bangalore Wiki-meetups recently. After that he shifted to focus to fight his POV to Wikimedia India Facebook recently. [3] and also pushing it on the article [4] . Of late he is threatening to sue Wikipedia and Wikimedia admins. Knowing his aggressiveness, i don't think he can be taken lightly. </span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></span></div><div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span>I am not sure whether he is intending to sue against the Wikimedia Foundation, ( office in India ) or India chapter or individuals from India who are admins ( OMG, that includes me :) )</span></font></div>
<div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span><br></span></font></div><div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span>Time for a legal contact in India ? </span></font></div>
<div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span><br></span></font></div><div><span><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Thoughts? </font></span></div>
<div><span><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></span></div><div><span><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Regards</font></span></div>
<div><span><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Tinu Cherian</font></span></div>
<div><span><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></span></div><div><span><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">P.S.</font></span><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span>I couldn't find the contact mail id of Geoffrey Brigham, the new legal counsel of the Foundation. </span></font></div>
<div><span><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></span></div><div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span>[1] </span><a href="http://twitter.com/#!/basavarajitnal" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/#!/basavarajitnal</a> </font></div>
<div><a href="http://www.linkedin.com/pub/basavaraj-itnal/23/a9b/4b9" target="_blank"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">http://www.linkedin.com/pub/basavaraj-itnal/23/a9b/4b9</font></a></div><div><a href="http://www.facebook.com/people/Basavaraj-Itnal/100000540087375" target="_blank"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">http://www.facebook.com/people/Basavaraj-Itnal/100000540087375</font></a></div>
<div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">[2] <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garuda_Mall" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garuda_Mall</a></font></div><div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">[3] <a href="http://www.facebook.com/WikimediaIndia?sk=wall&filter=12" target="_blank">http://www.facebook.com/WikimediaIndia?sk=wall&filter=12</a> </font></div>
<div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">[4] <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Garuda_Mall&action=historysubmit&diff=410530901&oldid=410529958" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Garuda_Mall&action=historysubmit&diff=410530901&oldid=410529958</a> </font></div>
<div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 12:24 AM, Facebook <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:update%2Bmh17p3hd@facebookmail.com" target="_blank">update+mh17p3hd@facebookmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<table width="100%"><tbody><tr><td width="470px" style="font-size:12px" valign="top" align="left"><div><div style="margin-bottom:15px;font-size:12px">Hi Cherian,</div><div style="margin-bottom:15px">Basavaraj Itnal commented on WikimediaIndia's wall post.</div>
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"anyways, while i respect what you guys are doing, i am actively looking for a legal recourse to make wiki admins accountable and available to legal action.
as for Garuda issue is concerned after doubting the veracity of my documents without verifying them and without again cross checking with the govt, they just made a small correction saying Garuda Mall land is owned by bruhat bengaluru mahanagar palike. :)"
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