[Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimediaindia-l Digest, Vol 32, Issue 18
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Hi Tinu Cherian,
You might want to remind the journo that we (Wikipedia) are non profit and our info comes under CC-BY-SA license, however Google is a Business set up for profit with all their info being subject to copyright.
Regards,
User:AroundTheGlobe
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> 1. Wikipedia Meet-up in association with Indian Institute of
> Foreign Trade (IIFT) - Kolkata (jayanta nath)
> 2. Wikipedia workshop in Carte Blanche, Chennai (BalaSundaraRaman)
> 3. Hindustan Times confuses Wikipedia with Wikileaks
> (CherianTinu Abraham)
> 4. Google Translation on Indian language Wikipedias & Paid
> editing (CherianTinu Abraham)
> 5. Re: Google Translation on Indian language Wikipedias & Paid
> editing (jayanta nath)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 13:17:37 +0530
> From: jayanta nath <jayantanth at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Meet-up in association with
> Indian Institute of Foreign Trade (IIFT) - Kolkata
> To: Wikimedians West Bengal <wikimedia-in-wb at lists.wikimedia.org>
> Cc: "Discussion list on Indian language projects of Wikimedia."
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> Dear friends,
> An Wikipedia Meet-up/Workshop arranged by *Wikimedia India* (West
> Bengal) and in association with *Indian Institute of Foreign Trade
> <http://www.iift.edu/iift/index.asp>* (Kolkata Campus) has been held
> on *Saturday*,*12th February 2011* 3 PM at Saltlake, EP Block, Sector
> V,Kolkata, West Bengal,India.
>
>
> For other details and register yourself add your name* **"Attending"
> *section at wikipage below
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Kolkata/Kolkata3
>
>
> The details tentative schedule
>
> **
>
> *1500* *Opening Speeches*
>
>
> *Wikipedia & FOSS Culture
> * Speaker 1(Mr Indranil Das Gupta)
>
> *Crowdsourcing* Speaker 2 (Rimi B Chatterjee)
> Wikimedia India chapter updates Mr. Jayanta Nath
>
>
> *1600* *Panel Discussion*
>
> World's Strongest Medium
> Sumit Roy
> TBD Ranjit Goswami (tentative)
>
>
>
>
>
> *1715* *Open Floor Discussion*
>
>
>
> *1730* *Snack Break*
>
>
>
> *1745* *Wiki Workshop* Mr. Jayanta Nath *1815* *Closing lecture*
> *1830* *Wiki next Meetup discussion*
>
>
> With Warm Regards,
> *Jayanta Nath*
> Wikimedia India,West Bengal
> +91 9836294438
> Facebook :http://www.facebook.com/jayantanth
> Wikipedia :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jayantanth
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> Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 01:39:15 -0800 (PST)
> From: BalaSundaraRaman <sundarbecse at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia workshop in Carte Blanche,
> Chennai
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> Hi,
>
> As part of the FOSS event called Carte Blanche (http://cb.csmit.org/) to be held
> at the Madras Institute of Technology, a Wikipedia workshop is being conducted
> on February 6 between 9:30 am and 4:30 pm. Following is the proposal, the exact
> timings will be finalised soon.
>
> * English Wikipedia - general introduction for participation (Sundar)
> * ????? ?????????????? ????????? (Tamil Wikipedia Workshop by users Manian,
> Sengai Podhuvan, Paridhimathi, Surya Prakash, and Mahir)
> * Hacking with Wikipedia (Srikanth's previous presentation will be used +
> Sundar's introduction to pywikipediabot and a few bot examples + Mahir's talk
> about templates and other things)
>
> The organisers have kindly agreed to give us a stall as well. If any of you can
> participate or, better still, conduct sessions, you're most welcome.
> On a sidenote, I've been asked to inaugurate the event on Feb 5 at 9:00 am. All
> are welcome.
>
> - Sundar
>
>
> "That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for
> the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted."
> - George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 07:32:10 +0530
> From: CherianTinu Abraham <tinucherian at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] Hindustan Times confuses Wikipedia with
> Wikileaks
> To: "Discussion list on Indian language projects of Wikimedia."
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> Hindustan Times confuses Wikipedia with Wikileaks
>
> http://www.hindustantimes.com/Two-Indian-cos-tried-to-sell-dual-use-products-to-Syria-Wikileaks/Article1-658213.aspx
>
>
> "The US had alerted India that Syria was trying to buy products from two
> Indian firms that could have been used in making chemical and biological
> weapons, secret cables posted by* whistle-blowing site Wikipedia *has
> revealed."
>
> Regards
> Tinu Cherian
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:31:07 +0530
> From: CherianTinu Abraham <tinucherian at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] Google Translation on Indian language
> Wikipedias & Paid editing
> To: "Discussion list on Indian language projects of Wikimedia."
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> Hi,
> Yesterday I was asked some tricky questions by a journo. They were
> something like this :
>
> *" Does the surge of number of Indian language Wikipedia articles has
> anything to do with paid translations by Google ?"*
> *
> *
> *"Why should regular Wikipedians be motivated to contribute when Google pays
> to do the same ?"*
>
> I didn't answer them due to the sensitivity of the issue. But I am now
> curious on a statistical point of view.
>
> I am not referring to the philosophical question on whether paid editing is
> good or bad.
>
> But is there a way to find how many of the articles created in last year
> were created by normal editors/bots and Google translators in each of the
> Indian language Wikipedias? Somebody told me , the translators are supposed
> to leave the translate URLs of Google in the edit summaries to get paid?
>
> Which are the languages on which Google translations are happening ? I know
> it happens on Hindi, Tamil, Kannada and Telugu, at least. Any other ? I
> know it is banned to Bengali & Malayalam.
>
> Regards
> Tinu Cherian
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:44:37 +0530
> From: jayanta nath <jayantanth at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Google Translation on Indian language
> Wikipedias & Paid editing
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> In Bengali Wikipedia is not like ban, but we thoroughly watch/check the
> quality of translated content. If translation quality is not standard
> Bengali, we not accept. Most of the times we faced junk translation from
> Google translator. If any one translate English Wikipedia content to Bengali
> Wikipedia with proper Bengali content we would accept.
>
> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:31 PM, CherianTinu Abraham
> <tinucherian at gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > Yesterday I was asked some tricky questions by a journo. They were
> > something like this :
> >
> > *" Does the surge of number of Indian language Wikipedia articles has
> > anything to do with paid translations by Google ?"*
> > *
> > *
> > *"Why should regular Wikipedians be motivated to contribute when Google
> > pays to do the same ?"*
> >
> > I didn't answer them due to the sensitivity of the issue. But I am now
> > curious on a statistical point of view.
> >
> > I am not referring to the philosophical question on whether paid editing is
> > good or bad.
> >
> > But is there a way to find how many of the articles created in last year
> > were created by normal editors/bots and Google translators in each of the
> > Indian language Wikipedias? Somebody told me , the translators are supposed
> > to leave the translate URLs of Google in the edit summaries to get paid?
> >
> > Which are the languages on which Google translations are happening ? I know
> > it happens on Hindi, Tamil, Kannada and Telugu, at least. Any other ? I
> > know it is banned to Bengali & Malayalam.
> >
> > Regards
> > Tinu Cherian
> >
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> With Warm Regards,
> *Jayanta Nath*
> Calcutta,West Bengal
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