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Hi Tinu Cherian,<br><br>You might want to remind the journo that we (Wikipedia) are non profit and our info comes under CC-BY-SA license, however Google is a Business set up for profit with all their info being subject to copyright.<br><br>Regards,<br>User:AroundTheGlobe<br><br>> From: wikimediaindia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org<br>> Subject: Wikimediaindia-l Digest, Vol 32, Issue 18<br>> To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org<br>> Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 07:14:39 +0000<br>> <br>> Send Wikimediaindia-l mailing list submissions to<br>> wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org<br>> <br>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l<br>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br>> wikimediaindia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org<br>> <br>> You can reach the person managing the list at<br>> wikimediaindia-l-owner@lists.wikimedia.org<br>> <br>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>> than "Re: Contents of Wikimediaindia-l digest..."<br>> <br>> <br>> Today's Topics:<br>> <br>> 1. Wikipedia Meet-up in association with Indian Institute of<br>> Foreign Trade (IIFT) - Kolkata (jayanta nath)<br>> 2. Wikipedia workshop in Carte Blanche, Chennai (BalaSundaraRaman)<br>> 3. Hindustan Times confuses Wikipedia with Wikileaks<br>> (CherianTinu Abraham)<br>> 4. Google Translation on Indian language Wikipedias & Paid<br>> editing (CherianTinu Abraham)<br>> 5. Re: Google Translation on Indian language Wikipedias & Paid<br>> editing (jayanta nath)<br>> <br>> <br>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 1<br>> Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 13:17:37 +0530<br>> From: jayanta nath <jayantanth@gmail.com><br>> Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Meet-up in association with<br>> Indian Institute of Foreign Trade (IIFT) - Kolkata<br>> To: Wikimedians West Bengal <wikimedia-in-wb@lists.wikimedia.org><br>> Cc: "Discussion list on Indian language projects of Wikimedia."<br>> <wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org><br>> Message-ID:<br>> <AANLkTikkE91Zc4Nm+nfbZX61faOP2wF7y+AzqkTooGTg@mail.gmail.com><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br>> <br>> Dear friends,<br>> An Wikipedia Meet-up/Workshop arranged by *Wikimedia India* (West<br>> Bengal) and in association with *Indian Institute of Foreign Trade<br>> <http://www.iift.edu/iift/index.asp>* (Kolkata Campus) has been held<br>> on *Saturday*,*12th February 2011* 3 PM at Saltlake, EP Block, Sector<br>> V,Kolkata, West Bengal,India.<br>> <br>> <br>> For other details and register yourself add your name* **"Attending"<br>> *section at wikipage below<br>> <br>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Kolkata/Kolkata3<br>> <br>> <br>> The details tentative schedule<br>> <br>> **<br>> <br>> *1500* *Opening Speeches*<br>> <br>> <br>> *Wikipedia & FOSS Culture<br>> * Speaker 1(Mr Indranil Das Gupta)<br>> <br>> *Crowdsourcing* Speaker 2 (Rimi B Chatterjee)<br>> Wikimedia India chapter updates Mr. Jayanta Nath<br>> <br>> <br>> *1600* *Panel Discussion*<br>> <br>> World's Strongest Medium<br>> Sumit Roy<br>> TBD Ranjit Goswami (tentative)<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> *1715* *Open Floor Discussion*<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> *1730* *Snack Break*<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> *1745* *Wiki Workshop* Mr. Jayanta Nath *1815* *Closing lecture*<br>> *1830* *Wiki next Meetup discussion*<br>> <br>> <br>> With Warm Regards,<br>> *Jayanta Nath*<br>> Wikimedia India,West Bengal<br>> +91 9836294438<br>> Facebook :http://www.facebook.com/jayantanth<br>> Wikipedia :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jayantanth<br>> ______________________________<br>> <br>> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list<br>> wikimedia-in-wb@lists.wikimedia.org <Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org><br>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-in-wb<https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l><br>> -------------- next part --------------<br>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> URL: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/attachments/20110203/4e7ab2dc/attachment-0001.htm <br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 2<br>> Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 01:39:15 -0800 (PST)<br>> From: BalaSundaraRaman <sundarbecse@yahoo.com><br>> Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia workshop in Carte Blanche,<br>> Chennai<br>> To: "Discussion list on Indian language projects of Wikimedia."<br>> <wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org><br>> Cc: wikimedia-in-chn@lists.wikimedia.org<br>> Message-ID: <979596.8022.qm@web59903.mail.ac4.yahoo.com><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8<br>> <br>> Hi,<br>> <br>> As part of the FOSS event called Carte Blanche (http://cb.csmit.org/) to be held <br>> at the Madras Institute of Technology, a Wikipedia workshop is being conducted <br>> on February 6 between 9:30 am and 4:30 pm. Following is the proposal, the exact <br>> timings will be finalised soon.<br>> <br>> * English Wikipedia - general introduction for participation (Sundar)<br>> * ????? ?????????????? ????????? (Tamil Wikipedia Workshop by users Manian, <br>> Sengai Podhuvan, Paridhimathi, Surya Prakash, and Mahir)<br>> * Hacking with Wikipedia (Srikanth's previous presentation will be used + <br>> Sundar's introduction to pywikipediabot and a few bot examples + Mahir's talk <br>> about templates and other things)<br>> <br>> The organisers have kindly agreed to give us a stall as well. If any of you can <br>> participate or, better still, conduct sessions, you're most welcome.<br>> On a sidenote, I've been asked to inaugurate the event on Feb 5 at 9:00 am. All <br>> are welcome.<br>> <br>> - Sundar<br>> <br>> <br>> "That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for <br>> the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted."<br>> - George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 3<br>> Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 07:32:10 +0530<br>> From: CherianTinu Abraham <tinucherian@gmail.com><br>> Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] Hindustan Times confuses Wikipedia with<br>> Wikileaks<br>> To: "Discussion list on Indian language projects of Wikimedia."<br>> <wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org><br>> Message-ID:<br>> <AANLkTi=6pHctL-oVoQW_m+E=iT3xE8NKQadg5gqAh-PW@mail.gmail.com><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br>> <br>> Hindustan Times confuses Wikipedia with Wikileaks<br>> <br>> http://www.hindustantimes.com/Two-Indian-cos-tried-to-sell-dual-use-products-to-Syria-Wikileaks/Article1-658213.aspx<br>> <br>> <br>> "The US had alerted India that Syria was trying to buy products from two<br>> Indian firms that could have been used in making chemical and biological<br>> weapons, secret cables posted by* whistle-blowing site Wikipedia *has<br>> revealed."<br>> <br>> Regards<br>> Tinu Cherian<br>> -------------- next part --------------<br>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> URL: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/attachments/20110204/fcdedc67/attachment-0001.htm <br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 4<br>> Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:31:07 +0530<br>> From: CherianTinu Abraham <tinucherian@gmail.com><br>> Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] Google Translation on Indian language<br>> Wikipedias & Paid editing<br>> To: "Discussion list on Indian language projects of Wikimedia."<br>> <wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org><br>> Message-ID:<br>> <AANLkTi=AX9hk0xmPFSg8-Dga-j9g86NpiNmLYDVO=e1T@mail.gmail.com><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br>> <br>> Hi,<br>> Yesterday I was asked some tricky questions by a journo. They were<br>> something like this :<br>> <br>> *" Does the surge of number of Indian language Wikipedia articles has<br>> anything to do with paid translations by Google ?"*<br>> *<br>> *<br>> *"Why should regular Wikipedians be motivated to contribute when Google pays<br>> to do the same ?"*<br>> <br>> I didn't answer them due to the sensitivity of the issue. But I am now<br>> curious on a statistical point of view.<br>> <br>> I am not referring to the philosophical question on whether paid editing is<br>> good or bad.<br>> <br>> But is there a way to find how many of the articles created in last year<br>> were created by normal editors/bots and Google translators in each of the<br>> Indian language Wikipedias? Somebody told me , the translators are supposed<br>> to leave the translate URLs of Google in the edit summaries to get paid?<br>> <br>> Which are the languages on which Google translations are happening ? I know<br>> it happens on Hindi, Tamil, Kannada and Telugu, at least. Any other ? I<br>> know it is banned to Bengali & Malayalam.<br>> <br>> Regards<br>> Tinu Cherian<br>> -------------- next part --------------<br>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> URL: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/attachments/20110204/49fc5c31/attachment-0001.htm <br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 5<br>> Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:44:37 +0530<br>> From: jayanta nath <jayantanth@gmail.com><br>> Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Google Translation on Indian language<br>> Wikipedias & Paid editing<br>> To: "Discussion list on Indian language projects of Wikimedia."<br>> <wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org><br>> Message-ID:<br>> <AANLkTik3HxiTCA9BD8+ydFgihWHH_72d05AzHHswsqz9@mail.gmail.com><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br>> <br>> In Bengali Wikipedia is not like ban, but we thoroughly watch/check the<br>> quality of translated content. If translation quality is not standard<br>> Bengali, we not accept. Most of the times we faced junk translation from<br>> Google translator. If any one translate English Wikipedia content to Bengali<br>> Wikipedia with proper Bengali content we would accept.<br>> <br>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:31 PM, CherianTinu Abraham<br>> <tinucherian@gmail.com>wrote:<br>> <br>> > Hi,<br>> > Yesterday I was asked some tricky questions by a journo. They were<br>> > something like this :<br>> ><br>> > *" Does the surge of number of Indian language Wikipedia articles has<br>> > anything to do with paid translations by Google ?"*<br>> > *<br>> > *<br>> > *"Why should regular Wikipedians be motivated to contribute when Google<br>> > pays to do the same ?"*<br>> ><br>> > I didn't answer them due to the sensitivity of the issue. But I am now<br>> > curious on a statistical point of view.<br>> ><br>> > I am not referring to the philosophical question on whether paid editing is<br>> > good or bad.<br>> ><br>> > But is there a way to find how many of the articles created in last year<br>> > were created by normal editors/bots and Google translators in each of the<br>> > Indian language Wikipedias? Somebody told me , the translators are supposed<br>> > to leave the translate URLs of Google in the edit summaries to get paid?<br>> ><br>> > Which are the languages on which Google translations are happening ? I know<br>> > it happens on Hindi, Tamil, Kannada and Telugu, at least. Any other ? I<br>> > know it is banned to Bengali & Malayalam.<br>> ><br>> > Regards<br>> > Tinu Cherian<br>> ><br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list<br>> > Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org<br>> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l<br>> ><br>> ><br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> With Warm Regards,<br>> *Jayanta Nath*<br>> Calcutta,West Bengal<br>> Facebook :http://www.facebook.com/jayantanth<br>> Wikipedia :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jayantanth<br>> ???? ??????? ????? ???? ????,???? ????? ?????????? ??????? ??? 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