[Wikimediaau-l] Melbourne Wikimania 2010

Wed Jul 30 05:43:32 UTC 2008

I'm fine with either, to be honest. I'm on holidays then.

On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Nick Jenkins <nickpj at gmail.com> wrote:

>  A mini-conf at Linux.Conf.Au is certainly a possibility. E.g. Brianna
> gave a talk called "Who's behind Wikipedia?" in Melbourne's Linux.Conf.Auearlier this year, and it was well-received, and people certainly knew of
> the Wikipedia, liked it, the audience was receptive, interested, etc.
>
> To outline the pros and cons:
>
> Pros of having a mini-conf:
> * There's much less to organise, so it's more likely to happen. E.g.:
>   - time and date and place are largely determined for you
>   - accommodation is handled by someone else
>   - same for insurance
>   - same for registration
>   - same for entertainment events at night
>   - same for tea/coffee/snacks/biscuits
>   - same for organising the venue
> * It's an open-source-friendly and free-culture-friendly environment, so
> it's receptive, and there are good opportunities for getting in contact with
> like-minded groups.
> * There will be some overlap in people who will go to this conference as
> would go to a local wiki conference, so less travelling for these folks.
> * I don't know how much registration would be for the mini-conf only, but
> the prices of this conference are pretty reasonable, so I'd guestimate
> $80-$120 for the mini-conf only for an adult, and less for students (but
> that's just a wild guess from me, and reality may differ)
> * We may get participation/a few memberships from people that are attending
> the conference anyway, and who are sympathetic to the Wikimedian cause, but
> who would not travel to separate conference.
> * It's during a common holiday time, which should hopefully give most
> people a chance to attend.
>
> Cons of having a mini-conf:
> * We need to act _NOW_ and submit a mini-conf application. Closing dates
> for applications for mini-conf is 8th August - that's like one week away:
> http://linux.conf.au/media/news/15 , so application needs to go in *ASAP*.
> * Our application may not successful. (I think we have a good shot though.)
> We'd find out the result in September:
> http://linux.conf.au/programme/presenter_faq
> * It's a fairly technical crowd, and it (as the name suggests) the rest of
> the conference has a bias towards Linux. So the rest of the conference may
> not overlap with the interests of all Wikimedia Australia folks.
> * You cannot directly organise sponsorship (from
> http://linux.conf.au/programme/presenter_faq#Miniconfs : "Please also not
> that mini-confs are *not permitted* to seek sponsorship for their
> mini-confs - please direct any sponsorship enquiries to our Sponsor
> Contact <ben.powell at marchsouth.org>")
> * Less experience organising stuff (but conversely, more chance of it
> happening).
> * Hobart is less of a population centre than some other cities, so may
> reduce turnout a bit from locals versus if held in a larger city.
> * Travel costs getting there may be marginally higher than if held in a
> larger city.
> * We need to confirm that people can attend a mini-conf only (if they wish
> to), and that the fees for this will be much less than for attending the
> whole conference.
> * It's on a Monday/Tuesday, rather than a weekend.
>
>
> So given the imminent deadline for mini-conf applications, I'm going to
> call for some kind of consensus on whether we should submit for an
> application, or whether we should instead try to organise a separate event.
> (I'm not sure if this should be done via email or on a wiki somewhere, so if
> you think there's a better format for resolving this, please say so and send
> us a link). We either need to make a decision, or one will be made for us
> when the submissions deadline passes.
>
> Me personally, I'm happy with either a mini-conf, or a separate one or two
> day local conference elsewhere, I will try and attend either way, and don't
> feel strongly either way.
>
> -- All the best,
> Nick.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* wikimediaau-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:
> wikimediaau-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org]*On Behalf Of *Daniel Bryant
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 30 July 2008 12:31 PM
> *To:* Wikimedia-au
> *Subject:* Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Melbourne Wikimania 2010
>
> Acting on the presumption that we would use this weekend (a big
> presumption, I know, but it's handy given a lot of OS people are down that
> way on this weekend in Hobart), we basically need to decide what is more
> convenient:
>
> *Not having to arrange a venue and getting everyone to Hobart on a Monday
> or a Tuesday
> *Arranging a venue in Melbourne and hoping that the Linux/WMAU people from
> Hobart will duck up after the Saturday event
>
> If we're looking for a one-day conference either could work; a two day
> conference (which may be overkill) will not with the first, unless we hold
> it on the weekend before Linux. The downside of holding it at Linux is it's
> a Mon/Tue, but that might not be so bad given it's January (ie. holidays for
> many).
>
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Angela <beesley at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 12:14 PM, Daniel Bryant <dbwiki at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Is Linux one day, or both? if it's one, maybe we could hold it in
>> Melbourne
>> > on the other day of the weekend. I'd certainly be happy to jump across
>> to
>> > Melbourne for a weekend
>>
>> It's a whole week. They have "mini-confs" on Monday and Tuesday. Any
>> open source project can apply to hold one. This is where WMAU could
>> fit it. I'm not saying it's the best option for us - just an
>> alternative to be considered.
>>
>> Then the main conference is Wednesday, Thursday and Friday and a
>> closing event on Saturday (January 24th).
>>
>> Angela
>>
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>
> --
> Cheers,
>
> Daniel Bryant
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Daniel Bryant
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