[Wikimedia-l] Please, let's save the Wikipedia - from itself

[Lars Gardenius]

I don't agree with Anders Wennersten below. I have certainly seen the same kind of problems in Sweden as well (at least a couple of years back). There are other Swedish Wikis than Wikipedia mind you.

The problem is structural so it is shared by all Wikis.

Regards,
Lars Gardenius





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 Von: Fred Bauder <fredbaud at fairpoint.net>
An: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l at lists.wikimedia.org> 
Gesendet: 14:39 Donnerstag, 5.September 2013
Betreff: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please, let's save the Wikipedia - from itself
 

That's Sweden all right, it's like a small town. Thousands of
administrators from scores of countries is another matter. Even requests
for administration is very difficult as, unless you do big time research,
or spend your life monitoring others edits and activity, you just don't
know much. Voting has the same downside; because of the volume you just
don't have enough information to register an informed opinion, at least
about individuals. The people you encounter in daily activities while
editing is only a tiny sliver.

Fred

> It is no magic
> *yearly reelection of administrators/sysops has meant no bullying types
> are sysops any more
> *we are a small community with just a few hundred active. And we have
> decided to treat everyone (who are serious) as valuable individuals,
> and go a very long way to make all feeling welcome, stop behaving as
> overdog/underdog and also to try special solutions for troublesome users
> that enable them to not being blocked but having restrictions on certain
> type of activities. Both people who have temporary maniac periods and
> with autism symptoms can be useful contributers if handled right by the
> communities.
>
> But these experiences can not be extended to everywhere. en:wp have 20
> times the number of contributers then sv:wp and of course this means
> need of different ways of handling problems. I do not pretend to have
> anything to teach en:wp, but as said I find nothing useful for sv:wp
> hearing of the challenges on en:wp
>
> Anders
>
>
> Pavlo Shevelo skrev 2013-09-05 13:36:
>> Sorry, but I'm not agree with your note, Anders.
>>
>> My home WP is not en: (it's uk: in fact) but everything being discussed
>> is
>> very (100%) applicable for our community.
>>
>> Lucky you are in se:WP that you have no similar issues/problems but
>> perhaps
>> you've collected some magical know-how how to avoid said troubles. If
>> so
>> would you please share that knowledge & experience?
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Pavlo
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Anders Wennersten
>> <mail at anderswennersten.se>wrote:
>>
>>> Should not this discussion be held on he maillist for English
>>> wikipedia?
>>>
>>> There is not much, if any,  of what is being discussed that I can
>>> recognize from my home wp
>>>
>>> Anders
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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