[Wikimedia-l] movement blog, not WMF blog, was: Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

[Tilman Bayer]

On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 12:52 AM, Thehelpfulone
<thehelpfulonewiki at gmail.com> wrote:
> What I struggle to understand is that the Foundation was consulting about methods of making the blog more open which was intended, from what I understand,  to allow more community members to manage it.
I'm not familiar with plans to add volunteer administrators to the
blog, could you point me to the discussion you are referring to?

In general you're right, we made a significant effort to open up the
blog last year, in particular by drafting and editing many posts in
public, at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Blog/Drafts , and
moving the communications calendar of planned upcoming posts from the
(private) Office wiki to Meta:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Blog/Calendar

Since blog posts are not supposed to be changed after they are ported
over to the blog and published, editing and commenting on those drafts
and calendar entries on Meta seems actually the more relevant way to
get involved in the editorial process for those posts. To be honest,
we could still imagine more community participation on these drafts -
your help is welcome in drawing more attention to them!

>
> James, Tilman please can you explain the situation with the blog and why you removed the volunteer admins?
James is actually not very much involved in the blog. You can find out
more about who is on the blog team at
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Blog/Guidelines#Blog_team

I'll let Matthew respond about the user rights on the blog (also
because I'm officially on vacation at the moment), but two quick
points:
- There may have been some confusion between adminship and other roles
on the blog (cf. http://codex.wordpress.org/Roles_and_Capabilities ),
e.g. the ability to moderate comments.

- In general, keep in mind that a blog is not a wiki, in various ways.
For example, while Wordpress offers a revision history for posts and
drafts, it is buggy and diffs are hard to view. And at least as far as
I know, there is no equivalent of a recent changes page, watchlists,
or user contributions lists - all essential to support the kind of
collaboration that you and I are used to from wikis.


>
> On 13 May 2013, at 08:48, Huib Laurens <sterkebak at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> It had volunteer administrators untill 6 months ago.
>>
>> Huib
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 3:46 PM, rupert THURNER <rupert.thurner at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> While i fully understand that contents on a domain called
>>> wikimediafoundation should be foundation managed (i see your point though
>>> that a notification would have been nice), i do not appreciate that a blog
>>> on wikimedia.org has no volunteer administrators. The project domains are
>>> core to the wikimedia volunteer based movement.
>>>
>>> Rupert.
>>> Am 12.05.2013 19:59 schrieb "Florence Devouard" <anthere9 at yahoo.com>:
>>>
>>>> On 5/11/13 10:03 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 11.05.2013 21:26, David Gerard wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11 May 2013 19:45, rupert THURNER <rupert.thurner at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i would have expected a "movement blog" behind this URL, appropriate
>>>>>>> to the usage of the domain, but i am not sure if i am completely
>>>>>>> misreading this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Comcom has been actively seeking more contributions from people other
>>>>>> than Foundation staff. Most chapters have their own blog, but posts
>>>>>> from them for the Wikimedia blog are in practice heartily welcomed.
>>>>>> (Particularly in multiple languages.) There's even posts about
>>>>>> projects other than Wikipedia or Commons ;-) Matthew Roth can probably
>>>>>> clarify (cc'd).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - d.
>>>>> At this point I am lost. Comcom is made of the representative of
>>>>> chapters, right? (I just happen to know this because the representatives
>>>>> of the Russian chapter there have hmm... complicated relations with the
>>>>> communities of Russian language projects). Is the blog then the business
>>>>> of WMF and chapters?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Yaroslav
>>>>>
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>>>> The blog and comcom are actually quite separated.
>>>>
>>>> The blog appears to be primarly Wikimedia Foundation blog, but they love
>>>> "invited posts" that feeds the stream.
>>>>
>>>> Comcom is made of many different types of people. Staff and volunteers.
>>>> WMF and chapters. Affiliated or non affiliated.
>>>>
>>>> Flo
>>>>
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