[Wikimedia-l] fiction: WMF policy of paying less than market

[Erwin Mulialim]

Dear Jan-Bart,
Hey, I think that you are the dumbest and most foolish people in this world! Since you already know that working for a nonprofit foundation or charity that absolutely should not be expecting a salary sufficient in terms of value! Because this job is having the social goals of humanity and is not intended for business, so it is proper you should not expect yourself to be paid according to the salary standardization of benchmark government regulatory policy. For jobs that have a social purpose of humanity like this, we should not be so demanding, but we first have to love the job ought to give all of the skills and talents that we have for this foundation, believe that sooner or later will certainly all of the goodness and your efforts will be avenged by God through His wonderful ways.

May GOD Bless You Always!



Best Regards,


Claudius Erwin Mulialim
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Owner Q-Tech Computer - Ruteng
(CV. Montée Vista Media Vision) in Ruteng - Flores, East Nusa Tenggara, Indonesia.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 10:43:06 -0800
> From: lcarr at wikimedia.org
> To: wikimedia-l at lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] fiction: WMF policy of paying less than market
> 
> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 5:46 AM, James Salsman <jsalsman at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Jan-Bart de Vreede wrote:
> >
> >>... I do want to make sure you (and everyone else) realise that there is no FACT like the one that you mention.
> >>
> >> "fact that the
> >>> Foundation's policy of paying below market salary discriminates
> >>> against potential hires with large expenses such as kids in college or
> >>> a mortgage from 2007?"
> >>
> >> because
> >> a)  there is no such policy....
> >
> > So would you disagree with Erik Moeller's statement of 29 December 2012?
> >
> > "[WMF compensation is] below some companies that are
> > similar to us, notably Mozilla which is structured as a for-profit
> > owned by a non-profit and pays market-level compensation (sans
> > equity). Wikimedia is above most non-profits that do tech work, and
> > there's a fair bit of room to grow compensation-wise for an
> > entry-level hire. It's not what people could make elsewhere, and
> > that's understood by folks who make it through the process."
> > -- http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2012-December/123272.html
> >
> >> Finally I find the idea of restraining people to talk about salary
> >> almost comical....
> >
> > Would you post the text of the non-disparagement clause referred to at
> > http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Minutes/April_5-7,_2008#Non-disparagement_and_confidentiality_agreement
> 
> Talking about my salary isn't disparaging the company -- as referenced
> later, in the US employers can't prevent folks from talking about
> their salaries.
> 
> Though I do feel that the WMF salary is discriminating against my
> right to fly first class everywhere.  My champagne glass won't refill
> itself, you know!
> 
> Leslie
> 
> > and
> > http://uk.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Water_cooler&diff=19657&oldid=19653
> > please, so we can see exactly what it says?
> >
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> 
> 
> -- 
> Leslie Carr
> Wikimedia Foundation
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