[Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with support of bots)

Asaf Bartov abartov at wikimedia.org
Mon Jun 17 20:27:29 UTC 2013

Hubertl, your e-mail was rude, even if you did not mean it to be.  Please
remember hundreds of people read every e-mail sent to this list, and
civility is expected.



On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Per A.J. Andersson <paja at telia.com> wrote:

> Hi!
> Nice to know German language Wikipedia is full of sane people. Good for
> you.
> But maybe you don't need bots, so that's your decision. (You do not need
> infoboxes either, as I see it, and that's also your decision. Lsjbot makes
> infoboxes, among other things.)
> Yes, a larger database is more of a burden to support than a smaller one.
> Our experience at svwp is that automated help does not take away from the
> human part of the user community. Personally I think a larger database of
> comparable quality (built by any method) makes for a larger footprint = a
> greater chance of catching new editors. Wikipedia did that for me.
> My view on it is that larger communities can sustain and maintain a
> certain database easier than smaller communities. Wikipedia communities to
> a large extent depend on the language size surrounding it. We already have
> automation around us at several levels, and there are editing tools that
> make for faster editing – by humans. The use of these are seldom questioned.
> Best of wishes,
> /Per A.J. Andersson
> user Paracel63 at svwp
> (carbon-based lifeform from Sweden)
> 2013-06-17, 12:09, skrev Hubertl:
>  Payin´ peanuts, gettin´ monkeys
>> Servin´ facts, gettin´ idiots.
>> An unmanageable, not maintainable mass of articles is the best way to
>> breed idiots. Because facts do not create knowledge.
>> If that is our goal, then automatically created Wikipedias ar the best
>> way to solve one of our biggest problems, namely the permanent loss of
>> authors.
>> Maybe it is completely sufficient if you know that somewhere facts are
>> stored in a most possible stupid form.
>> I started more than fifty years ago learning about facts, facts without
>> understanding. But nine years ago I startet to learn something about
>> knowledge, understanding and correlations.
>> Why do not you need people like me? If we have bots now?
>> Do we want to make ourselves more important with impressive numbers?
>> Hubertl!
>> The german language Wikipedia has no single article that was generated by
>> a bot. I'm proud of it. If this would take place in de:WP, many people will
>> leave this project. With certainty.
>> Anyway, that does not matter, a bot is probably much better for monkeys!
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    Asaf Bartov
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