[Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage logo

Ziko van Dijk vandijk at wmnederland.nl
Mon Jun 3 11:33:00 UTC 2013

Indeed, and what if the Wikimedia movement looks after its own logos, would
that be bullying too? :-)
I remember a site with a name like "Wikithistown" (with "Thistown" being
the name of a specific city) with the self-description: "Wikithistown is
the Wikipedia of Thistown", using also the Wikipedia logo. A Wikimedia
representative asked the site makers friendly to reconsider the wording and
the use of the logo, and they did.
But some Wikipedia volunteers were very pissed off, because "those people
in Thistown are nice and do good things". This has never been disputed, but
to avoid confusion in the age of Wikileaks it is really important to make
clear who is what and who.
Kind regards

Ziko van Dijk
voorzitter / president Wikimedia Nederland
deputy chair Wikimedia Chapters Association Council

Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland
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2013/6/3 Katie Chan <ktc at ktchan.info>

> On 03/06/2013 10:49, Ziko van Dijk wrote:
>> The case already cost money to the WMF, because of the time invested by
>> our
>> legal counsel. As with the Loriot stamps and the office action then, it's
>> not worth to loose (even more) money for it. That might look different in
>> a
>> different legal system and with better odds.
>> I am not quite happy with making this a moral question about 'standing up
>> to bullies', Peter. If you want to fight bullying, there is a lot to do
>> within the Wikipedia editing community...
>> Kind regards
>> Ziko
> This has already been raised in this thread, but I want to emphaise can we
> please not equate everyone who enforces their trademarks as bullies. If a
> trademark holder do not enforces their trademark, they lose the trademark.
> Enforcing ones trademark is what a trademark holder is suppose to do. Now
> we can argue that the WTO is being overly broad in their interpretation of
> the similarity between the two logos, then the question becomes whether the
> Wikivoyage logo is worth spending the money fighting over.
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