[Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage logo

[Peter Southwood]

Has anyone done a search on other logos with similar characteristics, to see 
how much they differ? I think the WTO is taking a chance with this. Which 
specific aspects do they object to?
Peter Southwood.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Maggie Dennis" <mdennis at wikimedia.org>
To: "Wikimedia Mailing List" <wikimedia-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2013 5:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage logo


> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 8:21 PM, MZMcBride <z at mzmcbride.com> wrote:
>
>> Michelle Paulson wrote:
>> >Since then, the Foundation has received a cease-and-desist letter from 
>> >the
>> >WTO, requesting that we change the logo. While we wish that the WTO 
>> >agreed
>> >with our assessment that the two logos contain substantial differences 
>> >and
>> >could co-exist, we understand their concern. We still believe that there
>> >are some significant differences between the Wikivoyage logo and the 
>> >WTO,
>> >however, such arguments are not guaranteed to win if we were to legally
>> >oppose this request because there are also some substantial 
>> >similarities.
>> >With this in mind, as well as the fact that the Wikivoyage logo is still
>> >relatively new and has not had a chance to build significant brand
>> >recognition yet, we believe the better solution is to hold a new 
>> >community
>> >contest for a new logo.
>>
>> Will the current Wikivoyage logo be an option in this upcoming logo
>> selection contest? If the Wikivoyage community is strongly in favor of
>> retaining the logo it already approved, what are options?
>>
>
>
> On behalf of a Wikivoyager, I've already asked the legal team if
> derivatives of the current logo would be usable, and I'm afraid the answer
> is no. It must be a new logo.
>
>
>> I don't believe there's any precedent for the Wikimedia Foundation 
>> vetoing
>> a community-approved logo in this manner. (Is there?) This seems like
>> unchartered territory for Wikimedia, so it's important to be cautious and
>> careful, I think.
>>
>>
> I think that the reason why there's no precedent is because this is the
> first time that we have run into a trademark infringement claim against a
> logo.
>
>
>> >We believe that the community is the best body to decide what logo 
>> >should
>> >represent their hard work and hope that interested community members 
>> >will
>> >take this opportunity to once again showcase their creativity and talent
>> >by submitting designs.
>>
>> As I posted on the relevant Meta-Wiki talk page just now, the Wikimedia
>> community cannot feel rushed or pressured to accept this new logo
>> selection procedure. Typically a discussion of this nature would last at
>> least thirty days, from my experience.
>>
>> This leaves two options, as I see it: pushing back the timeline for the
>> selection of a Wikivoyage logo by a few weeks or not using this procedure
>> for the selection of the next Wikivoyage logo.
>>
>>
> The question of process is one for Meta, where discussion is already
> underway. No reason to fracture it. :) I appreciate your input there.
>
> Maggie
>
>
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> Maggie Dennis
> Senior Community Advocate
> Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.
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