[Wikimedia-l] Announcing 2 Community Fellow

[Richard Symonds]

I'm asking from a purely good faith perspective, by the way: I tend to deal
with HR here at WMUK, and I'll be dealing with it more and more in future.
The more I know about how other Wikimedia orgs do things, Tyre better :-)

Richard Symonds
On May 21, 2012 7:09 PM, "Richard Symonds" <richard.symonds at wikimedia.org.uk>
wrote:

> I must admit to being curious, as do at least two others i've spoken to
> about this. With no benefits and no pensions, and what seems like hazy
> employment rights that vary from state to state (not to mention fellows
> from overseas) and person to person, this does seem a little odd. How much
> notice are they given, and what support they are entitled to from the WMF,
> would be very helpful.
>
> I'd  appreciate a more technical explanation so I can understand how the
> WMF deals with people on these short term contracts. :-)
>
> Richard Symonds
> On May 21, 2012 6:35 PM, "Siko Bouterse" <sbouterse at wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Florence,
>> I guess I didn't do a very good job addressing these questions in the
>> earlier thread, so I'll try one more time :-)
>>
>> Fellowships are temporary roles, so they are not treated as full time
>> staff
>> positions.  They do not receive retirement benefits, and generally the
>> paperwork setup and associated benefits is not like staff, its more like
>> contractor, though again the specifics will vary according to fellowship
>> location, duration, and what US regulation dictates based on these
>> variables.  I am happily ignorant of the liability/insurance side of
>> things, so perhaps someone from the LCA team can address this if needed.
>>
>> Is there a particular issue that makes you ask about this, or just
>> generally curious?
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> Siko
>>
>>
>> >
>> >
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>> > Message: 2
>> > Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 23:29:51 +0200
>> > From: Florence Devouard <anthere9 at yahoo.com>
>> > To: wikimedia-l at lists.wikimedia.org
>> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing 2
>> >        Community       Fellows
>> > Message-ID: <jpbnof$8vl$2 at dough.gmane.org>
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>> >
>> > I can not help (I am optimistic with lot's of faith :))
>> >
>> > Does the fellowship status implies that the WMF pays for health or
>> > retirement benefits (as it would for a staff member) or does the fellow
>> > receive a lump sum and manages by himself to pay for taxes and benefits
>> > depending on the country he lives in (as would a contractor) ?
>> >
>> > Does the fellowship status implies that, should the fellow get in
>> > trouble, he would be considered "staff" (in terms of liability) or is he
>> > on his own ? (which in my terms would be "if as staff", he is covered by
>> > WMF insurance versus "if as contractor", he has to pay insurance by
>> > himself).
>> >
>> >
>> > Florence
>> >
>> > --
>> Siko Bouterse
>> Head of Community Fellowships
>> Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.
>>
>> sbouterse at wikimedia.org
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