[Wikimedia-l] Apparently, Wikipedia is ugly

[Deryck Chan]

I think the clear moral of this story is that, as accommodating and
reader-friendly you can be, you just can't make everyone happy.

We should listen to all opinions and suggestions, but expect to decide most
of the time that the suggestions are simply dumb or unhelpful.

On 25 July 2012 16:22, Michel Vuijlsteke <wikipedia at zog.org> wrote:

> On 25 July 2012 15:57, Kim Bruning <kim at bruning.xs4all.nl> wrote:
>
> >
> > That's default web behaviour. If you want narrower columns, just make the
> > browser window narrower.
> >
> > * If your answer is "Some people don't know how to use a browser"...
> > well...
> >   ARGH
> >
>
> Most people never resize their browser windows.
> If your answer is "Most people are stupid and don't *deserve* a better
> reading experience"… well, sum, yeah. There's that.
>
>
> > * Else If your answer is "Lets make it narrower for everyone (including
> us
> > WIMPs
> >   who *do* know how to use Windows Icons Menus and Pointers) whether they
> >   want to or not."   I KEEEEL YOU
> >
>
> It's not about making it "narrower". It's about making it *better*.
> Analogy: "Let's reduce the amount of words in the lede" <> "Let's make the
> lede better".
>
>
> > * Else If your answer is "better DTPishlayout control in CSS, including
> > some sane way to
> >   do proper columnated text": YES YES, 1000 TIMES YES!
> >
>
> Column layout on scrolling web pages doesn't make a lot of sense.
> Some additional "DTP-ish" layout control in CSS would be nice, sure, but
> that's not the point.
>
>
> > * Else If other: Ok, go ahead, I'm listening? :-)
> >
>
> Well, see points raised earlier. Making Wikipedia easier to read and use is
> not just mollycoddling lazy users who "should know better".
>
> Michel
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