[Wikimedia-l] OFFICE actions and WMF image tagging

Theo10011 de10011 at gmail.com
Tue Jul 3 19:23:35 UTC 2012


On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 12:35 AM, Philippe Beaudette
<philippe at wikimedia.org>wrote:

> To the best of my knowledge, no.
>
> And that's precisely why we would like a global ban policy implemented. We
> would prefer an established, community-monitored process that we can turn
> to when at all possible (and make no mistake, in this case it was needed; I
> wish we could give all the specifics, but for privacy reasons, we just
> can't).  Because we didn't have that, we had to break new ground with the
> Office actions policy.  I hope we never have to use that again.
>

Thanks Pb.

Most of the discussion archived on Jimmy's page reveals majority of the
issue. I have more to say I suppose, about crime being separate from a
criminal. There is something to be said about privacy also, how there are
expectations that re-affirm anonymity. But everyone I know and trust on
this issue, is saying that it was justified, so I won't talk about this
case.

I would ask about a hypothetical, is someone's off-wiki opinion or behavior
or even criminal past, grounds for a block? There are Arbcomm members here,
and I have known of cases of harassment following editors off-wiki. But
what about privacy rights? doesn't someone has the expectation of privacy?
if so, then no action on wiki can be directly linked to off-wiki opinion or
behavior. The only exception, would be ongoing abuse or on-wiki abuse
making its way off-wiki. The projects are fragmented with their own
communities and policies, this is exactly why sweeping global actions make
a bold general statement, especially so, when they are done by staff under
the aegis of OFFICE action.

If this is global block policy is going to stand, I hope this can be
fleshed out more, like the work Steven has been doing and discussing on
Meta, with some oversight or community based body to balance the staff.

Regards
Theo


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