[Wikimedia-l] OFFICE actions and WMF image tagging

Theo10011 de10011 at gmail.com
Tue Jul 3 19:23:35 UTC 2012

On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 12:35 AM, Philippe Beaudette
<philippe at wikimedia.org>wrote:

> To the best of my knowledge, no.
> And that's precisely why we would like a global ban policy implemented. We
> would prefer an established, community-monitored process that we can turn
> to when at all possible (and make no mistake, in this case it was needed; I
> wish we could give all the specifics, but for privacy reasons, we just
> can't).  Because we didn't have that, we had to break new ground with the
> Office actions policy.  I hope we never have to use that again.

Thanks Pb.

Most of the discussion archived on Jimmy's page reveals majority of the
issue. I have more to say I suppose, about crime being separate from a
criminal. There is something to be said about privacy also, how there are
expectations that re-affirm anonymity. But everyone I know and trust on
this issue, is saying that it was justified, so I won't talk about this

I would ask about a hypothetical, is someone's off-wiki opinion or behavior
or even criminal past, grounds for a block? There are Arbcomm members here,
and I have known of cases of harassment following editors off-wiki. But
what about privacy rights? doesn't someone has the expectation of privacy?
if so, then no action on wiki can be directly linked to off-wiki opinion or
behavior. The only exception, would be ongoing abuse or on-wiki abuse
making its way off-wiki. The projects are fragmented with their own
communities and policies, this is exactly why sweeping global actions make
a bold general statement, especially so, when they are done by staff under
the aegis of OFFICE action.

If this is global block policy is going to stand, I hope this can be
fleshed out more, like the work Steven has been doing and discussing on
Meta, with some oversight or community based body to balance the staff.


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