[Wikimedia-l] Banners are too bright, too long

[Thomas Dalton]

Zack, you may want to look up "sample bias"... Of course you don't get many
complaints from the people that responded positively to the banners...
On Dec 4, 2012 5:56 PM, "Zack Exley" <zexley at wikimedia.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Zack Exley <zexley at wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
> > Unacceptable!
>
>
> Sorry Max, your tone and language gave me a flashback to my demonic 3rd
> grade teacher and it took a little while to recover. (I'm not joking.)
>
> On the topic of the "sticky" banners, I'd like to know what others think.
> Starting next year, or even now, we can remove the stickiness. That will
> just mean more days of banners. It's just a choice.
>
> To me, it's not clear which is better. Tens of thousands of donors have
> filled out a survey this year after donating. We've gotten hardly a handful
> of complaints. I would have expected a lot. Instead, we have lots of people
> thanking us for making them see the banners, because they were happy to
> learn this surprising news that we're a non-profit that runs on donations.
>
> Is it really so bad? Stickiness boosts donations by about 20-30%. That
> means many fewer days of banners. Next year it may mean that we just show
> people only one banner view all year instead of two. Or maybe 2 instead of
> 4 (we don't know how it will play out yet).
>
>
>
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 12:52 AM, MZMcBride <z at mzmcbride.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Zack Exley wrote:
> >> > We just were playing around with the hover banners to see what kind of
> >> > effect they might have. They're not up now. And probably won't come
> >> back.
> >>
> >> Your comment reminds me of discussions from earlier this year with the
> >> Editor engagement experiments (E3) team about treating Wikimedia users
> as
> >> colleagues, not as customers.[1]
> >>
> >> The auto-expand banners were unacceptable. As I'm currently viewing
> >> en.wikipedia.org, the banners _continue_ to block portions of the page
> >> content as I scroll down the page. This is also unacceptable.
> >>
> >> Enough "playing around." You're annoying readers and editors alike with
> >> these banners.
> >>
> >> MZMcBride
> >>
> >> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Experiments
> >>
> >>
> >>
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