[Wikimedia-l] conversations between WMF and non-English projects

[Rjd0060]

What is wrong with just using this (and other lists, as appropriate)
for this?  Not only can every community participate, it isn't
restricted to another group of users ... everybody can!

-- 
Ryan
User:Rjd0060



On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 8:12 AM, Ziko van Dijk <vandijk at wmnederland.nl> wrote:
> Hello,
> I repeat my proposal that every wiki-website ("project") should
> install a (international) contact person, and these contact persons
> should be following a mailing list with specified information for
> them. They inform the wiki-website-community about important issues on
> the village pump or via another way.
> We have seen that purely informal positions (the self-appointed
> "ambassadors") don't work.
> Kind regards
> Ziko
>
>
>
> 2012/8/4 Tilman Bayer <tbayer at wikimedia.org>:
>> On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Amir E. Aharoni
>> <amir.aharoni at mail.huji.ac.il> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> In the 2012-13 WMF plan document I saw an interesting thing:
>>> "We’ve hosted key community stakeholders such as English Wikipedia’s
>>> ArbCom and Portuguese Wikipedia’s top contributors, in an effort to
>>> better understand and respond to issues they're facing." (page 41).
>>>
>>> I was very happy to read this. In general, I hope that such focused
>>> meetings will be held with more language communities. I don't think
>>> that I need to explain why :)
>>>
>>> I don't know how did the meeting with the Portuguese Wikipedians go;
>>> I
>>> suppose that it was good. I don't remember that I read anything about
>>> it in blogs or mailing lists, but I may have missed it.
>> Apart from the one post linked by Steven
>> (https://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/03/22/brazil-meetups-march/ ), the
>> Wikimedia blog has seen several other posts about other meetings of
>> WMF with Portuguese Wikipedia contributors in Brasil:
>>
>> https://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/02/20/brazil-campus-party/
>>
>> https://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/01/11/brazil-recruiting-and-partnership-with-the-community-moves-forward/
>>
>> https://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/10/19/brazil-trip-3/
>>
>> See also the recurring Brazil Catalyst section in the monthly WMF reports.
>>
>>> Maybe what I'm
>>> about to write is known already, but I'll say it anyway.
>>>
>>> An important thing in such meetings is to have a community member who
>>> contributes to the Wikipedia in that language AND to the English
>>> Wikipedia. This is needed because the Foundation people are probably
>>> familiar with policies, customs and jargon in the English Wikipedia.
>>> Even simple terms, like "Village Pump", are not necessarily familiar
>>> to people who primarily edit in other languages; not all Wikipedias
>>> have ArbComs; not all Wikipedias prohibit voting; etc. Such a person
>>> will be able to "translate" between the English Wikipedia terms and
>>> the local Wikipedia terms. Without such a person misunderstandings
>>> will definitely happen, even if everybody knows the English language
>>> well.
>> You are of course right that it is important to be aware of the
>> differences between the many language versions of Wikipedia. But it
>> might be worth knowing that the WMF's Brazil Catalyst project
>> (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Programa_Catalisador_do_Brasil ) has
>> been run out of Brazil by a native speaker of Portuguese for quite
>> some time now, with a WMF contractor who has been editing on the
>> Portuguese Wikipedia and (less frequently) the English Wikipedia since
>> 2006. I'm not sure about the validity of your conjectures with regard
>> to them.
>>
>> And even before that, there had been in-depth efforts by WMF to
>> understand the local community, see e.g.
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Brazil_Catalyst_Project/Community_Interviews
>>
>> --
>> Tilman Bayer
>> Senior Operations Analyst (Movement Communications)
>> Wikimedia Foundation
>> IRC (Freenode): HaeB
>>
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