[Wikimedia-l] Facebook goes turncoat on the "squash internet freedom" battle.

Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonavaro at gmail.com
Tue Apr 17 19:38:37 UTC 2012


On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:32 PM, Todd Allen <toddmallen at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
> <cimonavaro at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Todd Allen <toddmallen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 11:20 PM, Mono <monomium at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Well, piracy is illegal and piracy stems from file sharing...
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, April 16, 2012, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> First there were SOPA, PIPA, ACTA and OPEN. Now there is going to be
>>>>> Yet Another Attempt
>>>>> to enact draconian legislation through mislabeling the real purpose of
>>>>> IP legislation by inserting
>>>>> it as a rider to law supposedly intended to help in combatting
>>>>> Cyber-terrorism: CISPA.
>>>>>
>>>>> From the link below:
>>>>>
>>>>> ‎"It's a little piece of Sopa [the Stop Online Piracy Act] wrapped up
>>>>> in a bill that's
>>>>> supposedly designed to facilitate detection of and defence against
>>>>> cyber-security
>>>>> threats. The language is so vague that an ISP could use it to monitor
>>>>> communications of subscribers for potential infringement of
>>>>> intellectual property."
>>>>>
>>>>> In effect this law is directed against file-sharers, not Cyber terrorism.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-17730266
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> Jussi-Ville Heiskanen, ~ [[User:Cimon Avaro]]
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>>> I've heard that pirates also use the Internet. We need to get rid of
>>> that thing immediately.
>>>
>>> Wait! What if they burn CDs/DVDs/Blu-Rays? We need to get rid of all
>>> those blank discs, right now!
>>>
>>> And hey wait, they all breathe, too! If we just stop people from
>>> breathing, we can put an end to it.
>>>
>>> Just because a technology is used to break the law doesn't mean it's
>>> responsible for the lawbreaking. Filesharing networks are no more
>>> responsible for piracy than the telephone company is responsible for a
>>> person calling in a bomb threat.
>>>
>>
>> So what's our game-plan? Don't please start arguing about the small
>> stuff. This is massive!
>>
>> I probably shouldn't even say this, but the foundation will look like a
>> massive prat, totally wrongfooted -- and grandstanding with all the
>> talk our spokespersons let slip out of their mouths after SOPA
>> went down, if they now pass CISPA, which is ten times worse.
>>
>> I've read the law, and it isn't pretty...
>>
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>> Jussi-Ville Heiskanen, ~ [[User:Cimon Avaro]]
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>
> Would it be possible to get enough other sites behind another protest?
> The last one didn't succeed just because of Wikipedia, it succeeded
> because there were so many. Facebook didn't do squat anyway, so nobody
> cares about them, but Google and Reddit are a different story. Just
> the threat of another protest (especially with a "They apparently
> didn't listen" theme), this close to elections, might be enough to put
> them off this one. It'll have to be something that shows they can't
> just wait a couple months and try again.
>

I actually have my own battleplan but I would like to hear from more
people first, to be sure we are all on the same page that this is a
battle we cannot afford to lose.


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