[Wikimedia-l] Facebook goes turncoat on the "squash internet freedom" battle.

[Thomas Morton]

Can you at least tone down the rhetoric. That's probably the main
reason few have responded yet.

Tom Morton

On 17 Apr 2012, at 20:38, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen <cimonavaro at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:32 PM, Todd Allen <toddmallen at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
>> <cimonavaro at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Todd Allen <toddmallen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 11:20 PM, Mono <monomium at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Well, piracy is illegal and piracy stems from file sharing...
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, April 16, 2012, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> First there were SOPA, PIPA, ACTA and OPEN. Now there is going to be
>>>>>> Yet Another Attempt
>>>>>> to enact draconian legislation through mislabeling the real purpose of
>>>>>> IP legislation by inserting
>>>>>> it as a rider to law supposedly intended to help in combatting
>>>>>> Cyber-terrorism: CISPA.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From the link below:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ‎"It's a little piece of Sopa [the Stop Online Piracy Act] wrapped up
>>>>>> in a bill that's
>>>>>> supposedly designed to facilitate detection of and defence against
>>>>>> cyber-security
>>>>>> threats. The language is so vague that an ISP could use it to monitor
>>>>>> communications of subscribers for potential infringement of
>>>>>> intellectual property."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In effect this law is directed against file-sharers, not Cyber terrorism.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-17730266
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>> I've heard that pirates also use the Internet. We need to get rid of
>>>> that thing immediately.
>>>>
>>>> Wait! What if they burn CDs/DVDs/Blu-Rays? We need to get rid of all
>>>> those blank discs, right now!
>>>>
>>>> And hey wait, they all breathe, too! If we just stop people from
>>>> breathing, we can put an end to it.
>>>>
>>>> Just because a technology is used to break the law doesn't mean it's
>>>> responsible for the lawbreaking. Filesharing networks are no more
>>>> responsible for piracy than the telephone company is responsible for a
>>>> person calling in a bomb threat.
>>>>
>>>
>>> So what's our game-plan? Don't please start arguing about the small
>>> stuff. This is massive!
>>>
>>> I probably shouldn't even say this, but the foundation will look like a
>>> massive prat, totally wrongfooted -- and grandstanding with all the
>>> talk our spokespersons let slip out of their mouths after SOPA
>>> went down, if they now pass CISPA, which is ten times worse.
>>>
>>> I've read the law, and it isn't pretty...
>>>
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>>
>> Would it be possible to get enough other sites behind another protest?
>> The last one didn't succeed just because of Wikipedia, it succeeded
>> because there were so many. Facebook didn't do squat anyway, so nobody
>> cares about them, but Google and Reddit are a different story. Just
>> the threat of another protest (especially with a "They apparently
>> didn't listen" theme), this close to elections, might be enough to put
>> them off this one. It'll have to be something that shows they can't
>> just wait a couple months and try again.
>>
>
> I actually have my own battleplan but I would like to hear from more
> people first, to be sure we are all on the same page that this is a
> battle we cannot afford to lose.
>
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