[Wikimania-l] Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 68, Issue 4

Tue Nov 1 21:02:08 UTC 2011

And I live in Iran, which US has no embassy, so I have travel to turkey or
UAE for the visa at least two times, to apply for the visa, 6 month is the
minimum time that i need to apply
Mardetanha

On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 12:19 AM, <wikimania-l-request at lists.wikimedia.org>wrote:

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>   1. Re: Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue (Mateus Nobre)
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> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 23:44:59 +0300
> From: Mateus Nobre <mateus.nobre at live.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue
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> Yeah Thomas, I forgot that.
> It's prundet give the scolarschips to whom already have the visas. Two
> months would be impossible normally (at least for Brazil, idk for other
> countried visa-needed). We could request special priority, but it's risky
> and always can be denied.
>
> _____________________
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> From: mateus.nobre at live.co.uk
> To: wikimania-l at lists.wikimedia.org
> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 23:41:09 +0300
> Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue
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> Yeah, but not all brazilians editors follow these lists.
>
> A good idea too give priority to whom already have the visa. This could
> avoid problems to Wikimania staff.
>
> _____________________
> MateusNobre
> MetalBrasil on Wikimedia projects
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>
> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:36:20 +0000
> From: berialima at gmail.com
> To: wikimania-l at lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue
>
> wikimediabr-l at lists.wikimedia.org is there for this.
>
> We also have wikipt at lists.wikimedia.org , lista at wikimedia.pt and
> http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Esplanada (if you can't
> follow any of those list and is brasilian I don't know what else they can
> be ;) )
> _____
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> On 1 November 2011 20:29, Mateus Nobre <mateus.nobre at live.co.uk> wrote:
>
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>
> For me it's easy. But it could catch someone by surprise and this someone
> may not have the visa. And take a U.S. visa in six months in some countries
> is really hard....
>
>
>
> _____________________
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> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:26:02 +0000
> From: berialima at gmail.com
>
> To: wikimania-l at lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue
>
> How that can be possible if the answers to scholarship applications are
> made in January - March? I would suggest to - If you applied for the
> scholarship - send a mail to the USA embassy scheduling the request for
> visa. If takes at least 3 months, will be done only in Feb (if you request
> now - December is a dead month in Brazil) and by them, you will have a
> result for your application.
>
> _____
> B?ria Lima
> (351) 925 171 484
>
> Imagine um mundo onde ? dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
> livre acesso ao somat?rio de todo o conhecimento humano. ? isso o que
> estamos a fazer.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 1 November 2011 20:20, Mateus Nobre <mateus.nobre at live.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/without/without_1990.html#countries
>
>
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> As you know in 2012, United States will held Wikimania at Washington D.C.!
> Yeah.
>
> But make a Wikimania in U.S.A. have some problems, you probably know it
> but I wanna clarify to you.
>
>
>
> U.S. just dispense visas to thirty-six nations. All of the dozens left
> over need a visa to enter in.
>
> Last year I was selected to attend Wikimania 2011 at Haifa (the best
> moments ever in my life, btw, would love to support Washington too, ops
>  :D) and WMF contacted me six months before.
>
>
> In this ''six months before'' have one problem.
>
> In Brazil (not only, but in the most countries that need the visa) we take
> 3 months to schedule (and get some free time - it's vacation in Brazil and
> the people wanna travel) the visit to U.S. Embassy to require the visa.
> When we requite the visa, we take more 3~~4 months to receive the answer of
> Embassy. Over 6 months. And half per cent of the visas are denied. We could
> appeal, and would take more two months.
>
>
>
> It would be the biggest problem ever in a Wikimania organization. And
> happens in a really lot of countries which need a visa to enter in U.S.A.
>
> I suggest to announce to the people who live in that countries early.
> Earliest as possible. Maybe 8 or 9 months before... Take a visa to US
> really isn't easy.
>
>
>
> What do you think?
>
> _____________________
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>
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> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:48:01 +0000
> From: Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue
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> On 1 November 2011 20:44, Mateus Nobre <mateus.nobre at live.co.uk> wrote:
> > Yeah Thomas, I forgot that.
> > It's prundet give the scolarschips to whom already have the visas. Two
> > months would be impossible normally (at least for Brazil, idk for other
> > countried visa-needed). We could request special priority, but it's risky
> > and always can be denied.
>
> I meant 2 months from now, so about 6 months before the conference.
> That should be enough time, but we would need to start accepting
> scholarship applications within the next week or two, really.
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:48:57 +0000
> From: B?ria Lima <berialima at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue
> To: "Wikimania general list (open subscription)"
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> Any visa can be denied, Mateus. And there are a waiting list for Wikimania
> scholarship. You don't need to worry, no scholarship will be wasted.
> _____
> *B?ria Lima*
> <http://wikimedia.pt/>(351) 925 171 484
>
> *Imagine um mundo onde ? dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
> livre acesso ao somat?rio de todo o conhecimento humano. ? isso o que
> estamos a fazer <http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos>.*
>
>
> On 1 November 2011 20:44, Mateus Nobre <mateus.nobre at live.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >  Yeah Thomas, I forgot that.
> > It's prundet give the scolarschips to whom already have the visas. Two
> > months would be impossible normally (at least for Brazil, idk for other
> > countried visa-needed). We could request special priority, but it's risky
> > and always can be denied.
> >
> > _____________________
> > MateusNobre
> > *MetalBrasil on Wikimedia projects
> > (+55) 85 88393509
> >               30440865
> > *
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > From: mateus.nobre at live.co.uk
> > To: wikimania-l at lists.wikimedia.org
> > Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 23:41:09 +0300
> >
> > Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue
> >
> >  Yeah, but not all brazilians editors follow these lists.
> >
> > A good idea too give priority to whom already have the visa. This could
> > avoid problems to Wikimania staff.
> >
> >
> > _____________________
> > MateusNobre
> > *MetalBrasil on Wikimedia projects
> > (+55) 85 88393509
> >               30440865
> > *
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:36:20 +0000
> > From: berialima at gmail.com
> > To: wikimania-l at lists.wikimedia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue
> >
> > wikimediabr-l at lists.wikimedia.org is there for this.
> >
> > We also have wikipt at lists.wikimedia.org , lista at wikimedia.pt and
> > http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Esplanada<
> http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia%3aEsplanada>(if you can't
> follow any of those list and is brasilian I don't know what
> > else they can be ;) )
> > _____
> > *B?ria Lima*
> > <http://wikimedia.pt/>(351) 925 171 484
> >
> > *Imagine um mundo onde ? dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
> > livre acesso ao somat?rio de todo o conhecimento humano. ? isso o que
> > estamos a fazer <http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos>.*
> >
> >
> > On 1 November 2011 20:29, Mateus Nobre <mateus.nobre at live.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >  For me it's easy. But it could catch someone by surprise and this
> > someone may not have the visa. And take a U.S. visa in six months in some
> > countries is really hard....
> >
> >
> > _____________________
> > MateusNobre
> >
> > *MetalBrasil on Wikimedia projects
> > (+55) 85 88393509
> >               30440865
> > *
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:26:02 +0000
> > From: berialima at gmail.com
> >
> > To: wikimania-l at lists.wikimedia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue
> >
> > How that can be possible if the answers to scholarship applications are
> > made in January - March? I would suggest to - If you applied for the
> > scholarship - send a mail to the USA embassy scheduling the request for
> > visa. If takes at least 3 months, will be done only in Feb (if you
> request
> > now - December is a dead month in Brazil) and by them, you will have a
> > result for your application.
> > _____
> > *B?ria Lima*
> > <http://wikimedia.pt/>(351) 925 171 484
> >
> > *Imagine um mundo onde ? dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
> > livre acesso ao somat?rio de todo o conhecimento humano. ? isso o que
> > estamos a fazer <http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos>.*
> >
> >
> > On 1 November 2011 20:20, Mateus Nobre <mateus.nobre at live.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >  http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/without/without_1990.html#countries
> >
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > As you know in 2012, United States will held Wikimania at Washington
> D.C.!
> > Yeah.
> >
> > But make a Wikimania in U.S.A. have some problems, you probably know it
> > but I wanna clarify to you.
> >
> > U.S. just dispense visas to thirty-six nations. All of the dozens left
> > over need a visa to enter in.
> >
> > Last year I was selected to attend Wikimania 2011 at Haifa* (the best
> > moments ever in my life, btw, would love to support Washington too, ops
>  :D)
> > * and WMF contacted me six months before.
> > In this ''six months before'' have one problem.
> >
> > In Brazil (not only, but in the most countries that need the visa) we
> take
> > 3 months to schedule (and get some free time - it's vacation in Brazil
> and
> > the people wanna travel) the visit to U.S. Embassy to require the visa.
> > When we requite the visa, we take more 3~~4 months to receive the answer
> of
> > Embassy. Over 6 months. And half per cent of the visas are denied. We
> could
> > appeal, and would take more two months.
> >
> > It would be the biggest problem ever in a Wikimania organization. And
> > happens in a really lot of countries which need a visa to enter in U.S.A.
> >
> > I suggest to announce to the people who live in that countries early.
> > Earliest as possible. Maybe 8 or 9 months before... Take a visa to US
> > really isn't easy.
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> > _____________________
> > MateusNobre
> > *Wikimedia Brasil - MetalBrasil on Wikimedia projects
> > (+55) 85 88393509
> >               30440865
> > *
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