[Wikimania-l] Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 68, Issue 4

Mateus Nobre mateus.nobre at live.co.uk
Tue Nov 1 21:17:26 UTC 2011


I think it's better you advance your visa... 

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From: mardetanha.wiki at gmail.com
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 00:32:08 +0330
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And I live in Iran, which US has no embassy, so I have travel to turkey or UAE for the visa at least two times, to apply for the visa, 6 month is the minimum time that i need to apply Mardetanha 





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   1. Re: Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue (Mateus Nobre)

   2. Re: Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue (Thomas Dalton)

   3. Re: Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue (B?ria Lima)





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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 23:44:59 +0300

From: Mateus Nobre <mateus.nobre at live.co.uk>

Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

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Yeah Thomas, I forgot that.

It's prundet give the scolarschips to whom already have the visas. Two months would be impossible normally (at least for Brazil, idk for other countried visa-needed). We could request special priority, but it's risky and always can be denied.





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From: mateus.nobre at live.co.uk

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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 23:41:09 +0300

Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

















Yeah, but not all brazilians editors follow these lists.



A good idea too give priority to whom already have the visa. This could avoid problems to Wikimania staff.



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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:36:20 +0000

From: berialima at gmail.com

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Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue



wikimediabr-l at lists.wikimedia.org is there for this.



We also have wikipt at lists.wikimedia.org , lista at wikimedia.pt and http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Esplanada (if you can't follow any of those list and is brasilian I don't know what else they can be ;) )



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On 1 November 2011 20:29, Mateus Nobre <mateus.nobre at live.co.uk> wrote:













For me it's easy. But it could catch someone by surprise and this someone may not have the visa. And take a U.S. visa in six months in some countries is really hard....







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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:26:02 +0000

From: berialima at gmail.com



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Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue



How that can be possible if the answers to scholarship applications are made in January - March? I would suggest to - If you applied for the scholarship - send a mail to the USA embassy scheduling the request for visa. If takes at least 3 months, will be done only in Feb (if you request now - December is a dead month in Brazil) and by them, you will have a result for your application.





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On 1 November 2011 20:20, Mateus Nobre <mateus.nobre at live.co.uk> wrote:















http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/without/without_1990.html#countries







Hello everyone,



As you know in 2012, United States will held Wikimania at Washington D.C.! Yeah.



But make a Wikimania in U.S.A. have some problems, you probably know it but I wanna clarify to you.







U.S. just dispense visas to thirty-six nations. All of the dozens left over need a visa to enter in.



Last year I was selected to attend Wikimania 2011 at Haifa (the best moments ever in my life, btw, would love to support Washington too, ops  :D) and WMF contacted me six months before.





In this ''six months before'' have one problem.



In Brazil (not only, but in the most countries that need the visa) we take 3 months to schedule (and get some free time - it's vacation in Brazil and the people wanna travel) the visit to U.S. Embassy to require the visa. When we requite the visa, we take more 3~~4 months to receive the answer of Embassy. Over 6 months. And half per cent of the visas are denied. We could appeal, and would take more two months.









It would be the biggest problem ever in a Wikimania organization. And happens in a really lot of countries which need a visa to enter in U.S.A.



I suggest to announce to the people who live in that countries early. Earliest as possible. Maybe 8 or 9 months before... Take a visa to US really isn't easy.







What do you think?



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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:48:01 +0000

From: Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton at gmail.com>

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On 1 November 2011 20:44, Mateus Nobre <mateus.nobre at live.co.uk> wrote:

> Yeah Thomas, I forgot that.

> It's prundet give the scolarschips to whom already have the visas. Two

> months would be impossible normally (at least for Brazil, idk for other

> countried visa-needed). We could request special priority, but it's risky

> and always can be denied.



I meant 2 months from now, so about 6 months before the conference.

That should be enough time, but we would need to start accepting

scholarship applications within the next week or two, really.







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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:48:57 +0000

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Any visa can be denied, Mateus. And there are a waiting list for Wikimania

scholarship. You don't need to worry, no scholarship will be wasted.

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On 1 November 2011 20:44, Mateus Nobre <mateus.nobre at live.co.uk> wrote:



>  Yeah Thomas, I forgot that.

> It's prundet give the scolarschips to whom already have the visas. Two

> months would be impossible normally (at least for Brazil, idk for other

> countried visa-needed). We could request special priority, but it's risky

> and always can be denied.

>

> _____________________

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> *MetalBrasil on Wikimedia projects

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>               30440865

> *

>

> ------------------------------

> From: mateus.nobre at live.co.uk

> To: wikimania-l at lists.wikimedia.org

> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 23:41:09 +0300

>

> Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

>

>  Yeah, but not all brazilians editors follow these lists.

>

> A good idea too give priority to whom already have the visa. This could

> avoid problems to Wikimania staff.

>

>

> _____________________

> MateusNobre

> *MetalBrasil on Wikimedia projects

> (+55) 85 88393509

>               30440865

> *

>

> ------------------------------

> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:36:20 +0000

> From: berialima at gmail.com

> To: wikimania-l at lists.wikimedia.org

> Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

>

> wikimediabr-l at lists.wikimedia.org is there for this.

>

> We also have wikipt at lists.wikimedia.org , lista at wikimedia.pt and

> http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Esplanada<http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia%3aEsplanada>(if you can't follow any of those list and is brasilian I don't know what



> else they can be ;) )

> _____

> *B?ria Lima*

> <http://wikimedia.pt/>(351) 925 171 484

>

> *Imagine um mundo onde ? dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter

> livre acesso ao somat?rio de todo o conhecimento humano. ? isso o que

> estamos a fazer <http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos>.*

>

>

> On 1 November 2011 20:29, Mateus Nobre <mateus.nobre at live.co.uk> wrote:

>

>  For me it's easy. But it could catch someone by surprise and this

> someone may not have the visa. And take a U.S. visa in six months in some

> countries is really hard....

>

>

> _____________________

> MateusNobre

>

> *MetalBrasil on Wikimedia projects

> (+55) 85 88393509

>               30440865

> *

>

>

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> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:26:02 +0000

> From: berialima at gmail.com

>

> To: wikimania-l at lists.wikimedia.org

> Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

>

> How that can be possible if the answers to scholarship applications are

> made in January - March? I would suggest to - If you applied for the

> scholarship - send a mail to the USA embassy scheduling the request for

> visa. If takes at least 3 months, will be done only in Feb (if you request

> now - December is a dead month in Brazil) and by them, you will have a

> result for your application.

> _____

> *B?ria Lima*

> <http://wikimedia.pt/>(351) 925 171 484

>

> *Imagine um mundo onde ? dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter

> livre acesso ao somat?rio de todo o conhecimento humano. ? isso o que

> estamos a fazer <http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos>.*

>

>

> On 1 November 2011 20:20, Mateus Nobre <mateus.nobre at live.co.uk> wrote:

>

>  http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/without/without_1990.html#countries

>

> Hello everyone,

>

> As you know in 2012, United States will held Wikimania at Washington D.C.!

> Yeah.

>

> But make a Wikimania in U.S.A. have some problems, you probably know it

> but I wanna clarify to you.

>

> U.S. just dispense visas to thirty-six nations. All of the dozens left

> over need a visa to enter in.

>

> Last year I was selected to attend Wikimania 2011 at Haifa* (the best

> moments ever in my life, btw, would love to support Washington too, ops  :D)

> * and WMF contacted me six months before.

> In this ''six months before'' have one problem.

>

> In Brazil (not only, but in the most countries that need the visa) we take

> 3 months to schedule (and get some free time - it's vacation in Brazil and

> the people wanna travel) the visit to U.S. Embassy to require the visa.

> When we requite the visa, we take more 3~~4 months to receive the answer of

> Embassy. Over 6 months. And half per cent of the visas are denied. We could

> appeal, and would take more two months.

>

> It would be the biggest problem ever in a Wikimania organization. And

> happens in a really lot of countries which need a visa to enter in U.S.A.

>

> I suggest to announce to the people who live in that countries early.

> Earliest as possible. Maybe 8 or 9 months before... Take a visa to US

> really isn't easy.

>

> What do you think?

>

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