[WikiEN-l] FBI vs. Wikipedia

[FT2]

Commented. The main question is that not being lawyers, most users are
unqualified to assess whether it falls into an exception under 18 U.S.C §
701.

Mike's input is really needed, as genuine matters of US legality cannot be
agreed by mere consensus. If he says it's okay then we're okay, if not then
not.

FT2



On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Fred Bauder <fredbaud at fairpoint.net> wrote:

> Well, I tried that and quickly found
>
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:FBI_Badge.jpg
>
> That is not a logo but a badge and fits right inside the statute Mike and
> the FBI are discussing.
>
>
> http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00000701----000-.html
>
> I've nominated this for deletion. There may be others. Also, this is a
> object not an image. It presents the same problems as an image of a
> statue.
>
> Fred
>
> > I think the "high resolution helps forgers and impersonators" argument is
> > spurious.
> >
> > Let's assume the logo were to be used improperly. Most people don't know
> > what the "right" logo is. A decent image quality (straight lines, etc)
> > would
> > fool most people if it looked "professional" whether technically accurate
> > or
> > not. Social engineering does the rest (not everyone will argue with
> > someone
> > who claims forcefully they are FBI). Basic image cleanup is something
> > anyone
> > can do these days and any computer can tidy up a poor quality image to
> > look
> > "clean" (photoshop). If there was doubt asd to appearance most
> > impersonators
> > only need to google image: "fbi badge" to get close enough.
> >
> > In simple terms I don't see any merit whatsoever to a claim that a good
> > quality copy helps impersonators. Any impersonator will easily be able to
> > do
> > the job well enough to fool most people, and any capable impersonator
> > will
> > not be affected by Wikimedia's decision.
> >
> > FT2
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 5:11 PM, David Gerard <dgerard at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 8 August 2010 16:57, Charles Matthews
> >> <charles.r.matthews at ntlworld.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I think I found the word, early in 2007. Misunderstanding that Gerard
> >> is
> >> > more g'day than have a nice is a poor basis for any such judgement.
> >>
> >>
> >> Yes, the thread has been rather non sequitur all the way down. Assume
> >> some bad faith and why, it's a microcosm!
> >>
> >>
> >> - d.
> >>
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