[WikiEN-l] Notability and ski resorts (was: Newbie and not-so-newbie biting)

[Carcharoth]

On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 8:57 AM, David Gerard <dgerard at gmail.com> wrote:
> 2009/9/24 Carcharoth <carcharothwp at googlemail.com>:
>
>> He said sections, not articles. WP:UNDUE applies within articles.
>> Whether a version of WP:UNDUE should apply across the whole
>> encyclopedia is essentially the question of notability repackaged. And
>> when you spin sections out of existing articles to form new articles,
>> then WP:UNDUE clashes with WP:NOTABILITY (expand a section - you may
>> be unbalancing the article; spin off section to form a new article -
>> you may be unbalancing the encyclopedia).
>
> That's a view of the project that comes from an immature understanding
> of it. Unbalancing an article is all visible on the same page;
> however, three million Simpsons articles is *invisible* to the readers
> of articles on particle physics unless they specifically go looking
> for them. It actually doesn't affect them at all.

Yeah. I know that. Some people at AfD don't know that.

> Back in the early days of the odious origins of the jargon word
> "notability", back when it was a buzzword on VFD meaning "I haven't
> heard of it," people would raise this as one of the spurious arguments
> that made no sense on a moment's reflection. Like the one that too
> much text would overload the servers, so the okemon articls had to go.
>
> Please don't say this stuff without at least a moment's thought on
> whether it actually makes any sense.

I do try. Hint: this was about summary style spin-off articles, and
where the line is drawn there. Not about notability in general.
Replace references to notability above with WP:SUMMARY, and it might
calm you down.

Carcharoth