[WikiEN-l] ANI curiosity

[Carcharoth]

FT2, why not do a proper analysis of a week or two weeks of requests
at the admin and other noticeboards, to get some concrete figures, and
not just a general feeling?

Carcharoth

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 2:26 PM, FT2<ft2.wiki at gmail.com> wrote:
> I wouldn't be so quick to call it nuisance. We have thousands of active
> users, hundreds of thousands of occasional users, and a wide range of
> warriors, promoters, and people who don't get the plot (or would rather not
> do so). There's a very wide range of reasons someone might want an
> administrator to help, and most users aren't admins.
>
> There will be a constant flow of misplaced, bad faith  or confused requests,
> but many of those may yet have a fair right to be asked.
>
> Far more so, there is a far larger flow of completely legitimate and
> reasonable requests for admin help. I wouldn't call it "nuisance", as if
> it's just an undesirable annoyance. Its a result of being the size of the
> user base that even a tiny proportion validly seeking admin help might add
> up to hundreds a day.
>
> FT2
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 1:57 PM, David Goodman <dgoodmanny at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> People need a single main point of contact for problems; If we removed
>> AN/I, then the confused complaints would come to AN.  If we could keep
>> all the miscellaneous nuisance contained within AN/I, that would be
>> helpful, large as it might get.
>>
>> The various specific boards for reporting problems, SPI in particular,
>> are more apt to confuse new people than guide them in the right
>> direction
>>
>> On 7/23/09, Alex Sawczynec <glasscobra15 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Probably due in no small part to the fact that AN is the official
>> > "administrator's board," while ANI is the incidents board, the "i'm
>> telling
>> > on you" board where any user can report any perceived threats. Just tends
>> to
>> > lead to more outrageous, drama-inducing posts, I'd wager.
>> >
>> > - GlassCobra
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 6:34 AM, FT2 <ft2.wiki at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Some off-wiki response-seeking...
>> >>
>> >> A couple of comments at the administrator's noticeboard (AN) about the
>> >> quality of ANI discussion have led to a short post on-wiki asking for
>> >> perceptions:
>> >>
>> >> A user's suggested in passing in an AN discussion, that they feel there
>> >> can
>> >> be issues at ANI:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>   - *"For whatever reason, discussions at WP:AN seem to be a little more
>> >>      calm and rational than ANI"*
>> >>      - *"ANI is a bit like throwing chum into a pool of sharks. It's
>> just
>> >>      the mentality there"*
>> >>      - *"AN doesn't seem to attract as many drama seekers [as ANI]"*
>> >>
>> >>  Quick feedback: some truth to it? A lot? Not much?
>> >>
>> >>  A simple request for thoughts.
>> >>
>> >> Since ANI and VP tend to be followed by more experienced users and
>> admins,
>> >> I'm posting it on the en mailing list to increase the exposure and odds
>> of
>> >> feedback being given from non-admins.
>> >> Link to on-wiki
>> >> post<
>> >>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Administrators'_noticeboard#ANI_curiosity
>> <
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Administrators%27_noticeboard#ANI_curiosity
>> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> FT2
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