[WikiEN-l] ANI curiosity

[FT2]

I wouldn't be so quick to call it nuisance. We have thousands of active
users, hundreds of thousands of occasional users, and a wide range of
warriors, promoters, and people who don't get the plot (or would rather not
do so). There's a very wide range of reasons someone might want an
administrator to help, and most users aren't admins.

There will be a constant flow of misplaced, bad faith  or confused requests,
but many of those may yet have a fair right to be asked.

Far more so, there is a far larger flow of completely legitimate and
reasonable requests for admin help. I wouldn't call it "nuisance", as if
it's just an undesirable annoyance. Its a result of being the size of the
user base that even a tiny proportion validly seeking admin help might add
up to hundreds a day.

FT2



On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 1:57 PM, David Goodman <dgoodmanny at gmail.com> wrote:

> People need a single main point of contact for problems; If we removed
> AN/I, then the confused complaints would come to AN.  If we could keep
> all the miscellaneous nuisance contained within AN/I, that would be
> helpful, large as it might get.
>
> The various specific boards for reporting problems, SPI in particular,
> are more apt to confuse new people than guide them in the right
> direction
>
> On 7/23/09, Alex Sawczynec <glasscobra15 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Probably due in no small part to the fact that AN is the official
> > "administrator's board," while ANI is the incidents board, the "i'm
> telling
> > on you" board where any user can report any perceived threats. Just tends
> to
> > lead to more outrageous, drama-inducing posts, I'd wager.
> >
> > - GlassCobra
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 6:34 AM, FT2 <ft2.wiki at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Some off-wiki response-seeking...
> >>
> >> A couple of comments at the administrator's noticeboard (AN) about the
> >> quality of ANI discussion have led to a short post on-wiki asking for
> >> perceptions:
> >>
> >> A user's suggested in passing in an AN discussion, that they feel there
> >> can
> >> be issues at ANI:
> >>
> >>
> >>   - *"For whatever reason, discussions at WP:AN seem to be a little more
> >>      calm and rational than ANI"*
> >>      - *"ANI is a bit like throwing chum into a pool of sharks. It's
> just
> >>      the mentality there"*
> >>      - *"AN doesn't seem to attract as many drama seekers [as ANI]"*
> >>
> >>  Quick feedback: some truth to it? A lot? Not much?
> >>
> >>  A simple request for thoughts.
> >>
> >> Since ANI and VP tend to be followed by more experienced users and
> admins,
> >> I'm posting it on the en mailing list to increase the exposure and odds
> of
> >> feedback being given from non-admins.
> >> Link to on-wiki
> >> post<
> >>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Administrators'_noticeboard#ANI_curiosity
> <
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Administrators%27_noticeboard#ANI_curiosity
> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> FT2
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