[WikiEN-l] Ephemeral nature of web pages - a silly idea?

Jake Waskett jake at waskett.org
Wed Jan 3 11:39:38 UTC 2007


Sorry, I should have been more clear. My thought was that, when linking
to a page, it might be worth checking first whether archive.org has a
copy and, if so, linking to that version.

Your second comment is interesting. An argument could be made that
Wikipedia represents a selection of the more useful pages on the
Internet, and I wonder whether the folks at archive.org have considered
this at all. It is worth contacting them?

Jake

On Tue, 2007-01-02 at 20:01 +0100, MacGyverMagic/Mgm wrote:
> Problem is their lag time. It takes over 6 months for stuff to appear there
> by which time you are in deep trouble if it wasn't stored to begin with. It
> would be nice if every site that's referenced in Wikipedia is spidered
> automatically just like every site that's visited by a surfer with an Alexa
> toolbar.
> 
> Mgm
> 
> 
> On 1/2/07, Jake Waskett <jake at waskett.org> wrote:
> >
> > There might be some copyright problems involved with that proposal.
> >
> > There is a partial solution, however. The Wayback Machine
> > [http://www.archive.org/index.php] archives many web pages and their
> > revisions. They have negotiates an exemption to the DMCA
> > [http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=82097], and so will
> > probably be around for some time to come.
> >
> > Jake
> >
> > On Tue, 2007-01-02 at 05:33 -0800, zero 0000 wrote:
> > > We allow web pages as sources under some reliability
> > > criteria, even though the web page might change or go
> > > away.  We choose to live with this problem as a lesser
> > > evil than banning web sources altogether.  But, I was
> > > wondering: could Wikipedia not keep its own archive of
> > > web pages used as sources?  Or some such web pages?
> > > This is a minimally thought out proposal as you can tell!
> > >
> > > Zero.
> >
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