[WikiEN-l] Introducing a new mailing list

[Puppy]

I found his statements well considered and well written. I did not read 
it that he was chastising anyone who had not, indeed, demonstrated the 
very bias and intimidation which has led to this discussion. The only 
"tone" I saw was not turning a blind eye to the hostile actions of 
others - and this, more than anything else, can help to shame those who 
participate in such activities into no longer doing so - and the problem 
goes away - which is, after all, the ultimate goal is it not?

-kc-

Kat Walsh wrote:
> On 12/6/06, Phil Sandifer <Snowspinner at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> Allow me to briefly put my gender privilege to good use
>>     
>
> I wish that you had. Instead, some of your antagonism and rhetoric
> were only pouring gasoline on the discussion, and your
> characterization of the positions taken by those you've singled out
> seems at best mistaken. Casting those you see as your opponents in an
> unfairly negative light damages your own side and your own
> credibility.
>
> The question of whether a single-sex list is 1) needed and 2)
> appropriate for Wikimedia to host is a valid one. For discussion by
> everyone. Its existence does *not* affect only the women; it affects
> the whole community. (Those women who would at the present time like
> to discuss the issue in a more private forum can do so -- and have
> done so.) So I would like to hear discussion from everyone it affects,
> including you -- but if you're not going to raise the tone of that
> open discussion, don't join it. Which applies to everyone, including
> several others in the many spawned threads, but particularly those who
> would otherwise claim to value respectful discourse and consideration
> of others' needs.
>
> -Kat
>
> --
> "I am not a pretty girl / that is not what I do / I ain't no damsel in
> distress / and I don't need to be rescued / so put me down punk" - Ani
> DiFranco, "Not A Pretty Girl"
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