Pavel Richter wrote:
Wikimedia Deutschland is committed to run and maintain
the Toolserver as
long as
Wikilabs are not in position to offer the same level
of service as the
Toolserver. This
committment includes the purchase of new hardware,
where necessary to
keep the
servers running. As in the past years, I hope for
support by other
entities in this project,
both financially and with administration of the
Toolserver.
@DaB: how much of an annual budget do you think the toolserver requires?
On Tue, Sep 25, 2012, Delphine Ménard <notafishz(a)gmail.com> wrote:
we can't at this stage enter in expensive
improvements, because Labs is,
in the short to mid-run, destined to replace the "toolserver as you know it"
completely. It falls under the attributions of the
Foundation, as hosting
provider
of the Wikimedia Projects, to provide authors, developers and contributors
with the technical tools they need to make their work
easier.
Why is this? The Foundation has always tried to provide some technical
tools, but not all; it is not an exclusive job of the Foundation, and the
toolserver in particular has often (quite often!) provided support that was
not available anywhere else. It's good that more tools are being
developed and maintained. But in my opinion we need more entities, not
fewer, providing this sort of support.
And Ryan has said elsewhere that Wikimedia Labs is not intended to replace
the toolserver. So why is WM-DE considering dropping the toolserver?
And why is the WMF considering not providing db replication for it? I
thought the goal was to make that easier, not harder.
SJ