[teampractices] Scrum of scrums

Arthur Richards arichards at wikimedia.org
Tue Oct 1 00:52:06 UTC 2013


In an effort to get something scheduled soon, I've sent an email to folks
from teams who have expressed interest in doing a SoS (mobile web, ops,
growth, flow, language, analytics) soliciting the name of their
representative for the SoS so we can coordinate calendar invites. If you
did not receive said email but are interested in participating or your team
is interested but don't see it in the aforementioned list, please let me
know offlist so we can make sure to accommodate your schedule and get you a
calendar invite.

Once the meeting is scheduled, we can announce day/time/location for anyone
else.


On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Arthur Richards <arichards at wikimedia.org>wrote:

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> On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Bryan Davis <bd808 at wikimedia.org> wrote:
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>> > Ultimately, I think this can be boiled down to: tactical dependency
>> > management between teams with a byproduct of increased communication and
>> > on-the-ground transparency between teams.
>>
>> Well stated Arthur.
>>
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> Thanks :)
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>> > Prioritization, big deal collaboration, long-term planning, etc should
>> > happen in a different venue. I'm not sure how much cross-team
>> collaboration
>> > goes into this kind of stuff at the moment, but I think it's beyond the
>> > scope of the SoS.
>>
>> There are many techniques for managing cross-team strategic planning,
>> but I agree that SoS is not one of them.
>>
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> I suspect that after engaging in SoS, we may want to explore how we
> overlap/engage in bigger-picture strategic planning - but I think there is
> a lot of value to be found quickly around day-to-day collaboration with
> SoS. I have some more thoughts on this that I'll share in a separate note.
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>> > I propose the following:
>> > * twice-weekly SoS (maybe Tu/Th)
>>
>> Why so often? If this activity is primarily for interfacing Scrum
>> teams with each other and their consultants, shouldn't meeting once or
>> possibly twice per sprint suffice? If teams are executing tactically
>> against their sprint plans it doesn't seem that there should be a need
>> for 4 inter-team checkpoints per sprint (assuming 2 week sprints).
>>
>
> I figured twice-weekly was better than daily for us, but generally I think
> you're right. I don't know if we conceivably do this as a 'once per
> iteration' kind of thing since I presume we all have different sprint
> durations/start and end times/etc - I don't even know if all interested
> parties use strict iterations. What if we started out with once a week?
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>> > And of course, I suggest this as a starting point; it ought to adjust as
>> > necessary.
>>
>> I would suggest choosing a frequency for scrum of scrums retrospective
>> meetings from the start. At least once per quarter would be reasonable
>> and you may want to do them more frequently (fortnightly, monthly?)
>> when initially testing the process. Hopefully you can get away with a
>> small timebox (30-45m) for this. Be mindful of meeting fatigue and
>> seek to assign issue resolution as an out-of-band task for a small ad
>> hoc working group who will report back to the group.
>>
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> I wholeheartedly agree. A regular retrospective would help fine tune a SoS
> and potentially even evaluate its overall utility/efficacy. If we're
> SoS'ing weekly, perhaps once a month would be a good rhythm for a
> retrospective - at least to start.
>
> --
> Arthur Richards
> Software Engineer, Mobile
> [[User:Awjrichards]]
> IRC: awjr
> +1-415-839-6885 x6687
>



-- 
Arthur Richards
Software Engineer, Mobile
[[User:Awjrichards]]
IRC: awjr
+1-415-839-6885 x6687
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