[Labs-l] [Labs-announce] [action required] We are removing inactive projects.

[Pine W]

I'm fine with clean-ups; I'm wondering if they could be done on a set
schedule so that everyone knows what to expect and when to expect them.
Perhaps this could be done every 6 months. What do people think about that?

30 days' notice to mark projects as in use prior to suspending projects
sounds reasonable to me. I'm wondering, though, if it might be possible to
have a 90-day suspension rather than 30-day suspension before deleting
projects; deletion implies that they're unrecoverable, and that seems like
a much bigger deal than suspending projects.

Pine

On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Andrew Bogott <abogott at wikimedia.org> wrote:

> On 7/8/16 4:02 PM, Maarten Dammers wrote:
>
> Hi Andrew,
>
> I know resources are limited but I very very strongly object with this
> course of action. A lot of people are not on these mailing list, just not
> reading it or on holiday because it's summer.
>
> I always make an attempt to personally contact project admins before
> taking steps that affect a project.  That said:  If you are a consumer of
> Labs resources, it is your /responsibility/ to subscribe to this list and
> read announcements from admins.  Any unattended and unmaintained server is
> not just a wasted expense; it is a potential security risk to all of Labs.
>
> Suspending, shutting down and deletion projects is a good way to piss off
> and scare away volunteers.
>
> And spending thousands of dollars of donor money on resources for projects
> that no one has looked at in years is a good way to ensure that we never
> have any new volunteers, because we don't have any resources to give them.
> It's clearly a balancing act, but I'm not clear on what the alternatives
> are to having these periodic clean-ups.
>
> -A
>
> I'm sure that's not your intended outcome.
>
> Maarten
>
> On 08-07-16 18:09, Andrew Bogott wrote:
>
> If you are exclusively a user of tool labs, you can ignore this email.  If
> you use or administer another labs project, this email REQUIRES ACTION ON
> YOUR PART.
>
> We are reclaiming unused resources due to an ongoing shortage.
>
> Visit this page and add a signature under projects you know to be active:
>
> <https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Purge_2016>
> https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Purge_2016
>
> Associated wmflabs.org domains are included to identify projects by
> offered services.
>
> We are not investigating why projects are needed at this time.  If one
> person votes to preserve then we will do so in this round of cleanup.
>
> In a month, projects and associated instances not claimed will be
> suspended or shutdown.  A month later if no one complains these projects
> will be deleted..
>
> - Andrew (on behalf of all Labs Admins everywhere)
>
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