[Gendergap] [Commons-l] Fwd: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons

Wed May 18 10:31:33 UTC 2011

This response here is emblematic of the misogyny and ageism pervading Commons:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File_talk%3AOn_the_edge_-_free_world_version.jpg&action=historysubmit&diff=54489618&oldid=54483841
Coming up with "stuff old women like" would actually be a good idea, but I don't think thecontributor meant it that way.
At this deletion request
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Paleis_lange_voorhout.jpg
I pointed out that the creator of the manga image placed it on a photograph of the Escher museum, making it appear his image appeared there. This is deceptive, and against Commons image guidelines. The only response to the deletion request so far is a Keep.
The request to remove featured status from the Edge of the World manga image, startedindependently of our discussions by a Russian Wikipedia editor, is heading for a Keep:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Featured_picture_candidates/removal/File:On_the_edge_-_free_world_version.jpg
Here is the original nomination:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Featured_picture_candidates/File:On_the_edge_-_free_world_version.jpg
The image failed to achieve featured status in German Wikipedia:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kandidaten_f%C3%BCr_exzellente_Bilder/Archiv2011/1#On_the_edge_.E2.80.93_2._Januar_bis_16._Januar_-_Contra
7 for, 8 against, which based on objective criteria of artistic and educational merit is still kindto the image.
I am thinking of writing a letter to the Commons Village Pump to ask the community to takea long hard look at its basic competence. 
Sue, any ideas?
Andreas

--- On Tue, 17/5/11, Sarah Stierch <sarah at sarahstierch.com> wrote:

From: Sarah Stierch <sarah at sarahstierch.com>
Subject: Re: [Gendergap] [Commons-l] Fwd: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons
To: gendergap at lists.wikimedia.org
Date: Tuesday, 17 May, 2011, 16:19

    Hi dz,

    Great to hear you'd like to be involved. I've been really
    busy the past few weeks with finishing school, a trip to California,
    and GLAM related activities (oh and Regional Ambassadorness!) - so I
    haven't had time to sit down and get my "stuff together" for the
    HOW-TO. But, I'd love to add you to our HOW-TO gang if you like.

    =)

    Sarah

    On 5/17/2011 8:17 AM, Deanna Zandt wrote:

      I'd also be interested in contributing-- the BLP experience of
      last week was incredibly enlightening, and got me thinking about
      access... having the right key unlocked a wealth of knowledge and
      aid. How to make that key more widely available, or second
      nature/common knowledge? I'm hoping to blog about it soon. In any
      case, I'd like to come at some of the HOW-TO issues in general
      from that noob perspective.

      cheers
      dz

          On May 16, 2011, at 9:23 PM, Pete Forsyth wrote:

          On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 10:36 AM,
            Sarah Stierch <sarah at sarahstierch.com>
            wrote:

                   On 5/16/2011 11:49 AM, Pete Forsyth
                    wrote:

                      Anybody interested in tackling this issue?
-Pete

                  I'm working on diving into the HOW-TO this summer for
                  Wiki. I do want to see all of these topics covered -
                  and I'll contribute in anyway I can. Where do we
                  start? ;-) 

              Hi Sarah,

              I'd be really happy to work on this with you! (And
                anyone else).

              My sense is that there's a lot of work to do in
                identifying the problem -- or rather, evaluating the
                collection of interrelated issues, and determining where
                it's best to focus. The things that seem significant to
                me are:

              (1) Picture of the Day on Commons often seems to be
                the source of unnecessary strife (moreso than, say, PotD
                on English Wikipedia);
              (2) It appears that there is not a clearly identified
                set of editorial values around what DOES constitute a
                worthwhile PotD on Commons;
              (3) The technical and social processes for setting a
                PotD are difficult to understand and poorly documented.

              How about if we collaborate a bit on documenting how
                things currently work? I think that process will point
                the way toward recommending a solution.

              I've set up a page for this project, if you're game! http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Peteforsyth/PotD

              -Pete

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