<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">This response here is emblematic of the misogyny and ageism pervading Commons:<div><br></div><div><a href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File_talk%3AOn_the_edge_-_free_world_version.jpg&action=historysubmit&diff=54489618&oldid=54483841">http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File_talk%3AOn_the_edge_-_free_world_version.jpg&action=historysubmit&diff=54489618&oldid=54483841</a></div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File_talk%3AOn_the_edge_-_free_world_version.jpg&action=historysubmit&diff=54489618&oldid=54483841"></a>Coming up with "stuff old women like" would actually be a good idea, but I don't think the</div><div>contributor meant it that way.</div><div><br></div><div>At this deletion request</div><div><br></div><div><a
href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Paleis_lange_voorhout.jpg">http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Paleis_lange_voorhout.jpg</a></div><div><br></div><div>I pointed out that the creator of the manga image placed it on a photograph of the Escher </div><div>museum, making it appear his image appeared there. This is deceptive, and against </div><div>Commons image guidelines. The only response to the deletion request so far is a Keep.</div><div><br></div><div>The request to remove featured status from the Edge of the World manga image, started</div><div>independently of our discussions by a Russian Wikipedia editor, is heading for a Keep:</div><div><br></div><div><a
href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Featured_picture_candidates/removal/File:On_the_edge_-_free_world_version.jpg">http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Featured_picture_candidates/removal/File:On_the_edge_-_free_world_version.jpg</a></div><div><br></div><div>Here is the original nomination:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Featured_picture_candidates/File:On_the_edge_-_free_world_version.jpg">http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Featured_picture_candidates/File:On_the_edge_-_free_world_version.jpg</a></div><div><br></div><div>The image failed to achieve featured status in German Wikipedia:</div><div><br></div><div><a
href="http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kandidaten_f%C3%BCr_exzellente_Bilder/Archiv2011/1#On_the_edge_.E2.80.93_2._Januar_bis_16._Januar_-_Contra">http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kandidaten_f%C3%BCr_exzellente_Bilder/Archiv2011/1#On_the_edge_.E2.80.93_2._Januar_bis_16._Januar_-_Contra</a></div><div><br></div><div>7 for, 8 against, which based on objective criteria of artistic and educational merit is still kind</div><div>to the image.</div><div><br></div><div>I am thinking of writing a letter to the Commons Village Pump to ask the community to take</div><div>a long hard look at its basic competence. </div><div><br></div><div>Sue, any ideas?</div><div><br></div><div>Andreas</div><div><br></div><div><br><br>--- On <b>Tue, 17/5/11, Sarah Stierch <i><sarah@sarahstierch.com></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: Sarah Stierch
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Hi dz,<br>
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Great to hear you'd like to be involved. I've been <i>really</i>
busy the past few weeks with finishing school, a trip to California,
and GLAM related activities (oh and Regional Ambassadorness!) - so I
haven't had time to sit down and get my "stuff together" for the
HOW-TO. But, I'd love to add you to our HOW-TO gang if you like.<br>
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=)<br>
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Sarah<br>
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I'd also be interested in contributing-- the BLP experience of
last week was incredibly enlightening, and got me thinking about
access... having the right key unlocked a wealth of knowledge and
aid. How to make that key more widely available, or second
nature/common knowledge? I'm hoping to blog about it soon. In any
case, I'd like to come at some of the HOW-TO issues in general
from that noob perspective.
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<div>cheers</div>
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I'm working on diving into the HOW-TO this summer for
Wiki. I do want to see all of these topics covered -
and I'll contribute in anyway I can. Where do we
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<div>Hi Sarah,</div>
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<div>I'd be really happy to work on this with you! (And
anyone else).</div>
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<div>My sense is that there's a lot of work to do in
identifying the problem -- or rather, evaluating the
collection of interrelated issues, and determining where
it's best to focus. The things that seem significant to
me are:</div>
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<div>(1) Picture of the Day on Commons often seems to be
the source of unnecessary strife (moreso than, say, PotD
on English Wikipedia);</div>
<div>(2) It appears that there is not a clearly identified
set of editorial values around what DOES constitute a
worthwhile PotD on Commons;</div>
<div>(3) The technical and social processes for setting a
PotD are difficult to understand and poorly documented.</div>
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<div>How about if we collaborate a bit on documenting how
things currently work? I think that process will point
the way toward recommending a solution.</div>
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<div>I've set up a page for this project, if you're game! <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Peteforsyth/PotD">http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Peteforsyth/PotD</a></div>
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