<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">This response here is emblematic of the misogyny and ageism pervading Commons:<div><br></div><div><a href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File_talk%3AOn_the_edge_-_free_world_version.jpg&amp;action=historysubmit&amp;diff=54489618&amp;oldid=54483841">http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File_talk%3AOn_the_edge_-_free_world_version.jpg&amp;action=historysubmit&amp;diff=54489618&amp;oldid=54483841</a></div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File_talk%3AOn_the_edge_-_free_world_version.jpg&amp;action=historysubmit&amp;diff=54489618&amp;oldid=54483841"></a>Coming up with "stuff old women like" would actually be a good idea, but I don't think the</div><div>contributor meant it that way.</div><div><br></div><div>At this deletion request</div><div><br></div><div><a
 href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Paleis_lange_voorhout.jpg">http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Paleis_lange_voorhout.jpg</a></div><div><br></div><div>I pointed out that the creator of the manga image placed it on a photograph of the Escher&nbsp;</div><div>museum, making it appear his image appeared there. This is deceptive, and against&nbsp;</div><div>Commons image guidelines. The only response to the deletion request so far is a Keep.</div><div><br></div><div>The request to remove featured status from the Edge of the World manga image, started</div><div>independently of our discussions by a Russian Wikipedia editor, is heading for a Keep:</div><div><br></div><div><a
 href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Featured_picture_candidates/removal/File:On_the_edge_-_free_world_version.jpg">http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Featured_picture_candidates/removal/File:On_the_edge_-_free_world_version.jpg</a></div><div><br></div><div>Here is the original nomination:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Featured_picture_candidates/File:On_the_edge_-_free_world_version.jpg">http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Featured_picture_candidates/File:On_the_edge_-_free_world_version.jpg</a></div><div><br></div><div>The image failed to achieve featured status in German Wikipedia:</div><div><br></div><div><a
 href="http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kandidaten_f%C3%BCr_exzellente_Bilder/Archiv2011/1#On_the_edge_.E2.80.93_2._Januar_bis_16._Januar_-_Contra">http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kandidaten_f%C3%BCr_exzellente_Bilder/Archiv2011/1#On_the_edge_.E2.80.93_2._Januar_bis_16._Januar_-_Contra</a></div><div><br></div><div>7 for, 8 against, which based on objective criteria of artistic and educational merit is still kind</div><div>to the image.</div><div><br></div><div>I am thinking of writing a letter to the Commons Village Pump to ask the community to take</div><div>a long hard look at its basic competence.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Sue, any ideas?</div><div><br></div><div>Andreas</div><div><br></div><div><br><br>--- On <b>Tue, 17/5/11, Sarah Stierch <i>&lt;sarah@sarahstierch.com&gt;</i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: Sarah Stierch
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    Hi dz,<br>
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    Great to hear you'd like to be involved. I've been <i>really</i>
    busy the past few weeks with finishing school, a trip to California,
    and GLAM related activities (oh and Regional Ambassadorness!) - so I
    haven't had time to sit down and get my "stuff together" for the
    HOW-TO. But, I'd love to add you to our HOW-TO gang if you like.<br>
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    =)<br>
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    Sarah<br>
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    On 5/17/2011 8:17 AM, Deanna Zandt wrote:
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      I'd also be interested in contributing-- the BLP experience of
      last week was incredibly enlightening, and got me thinking about
      access... having the right key unlocked a wealth of knowledge and
      aid. How to make that key more widely available, or second
      nature/common knowledge? I'm hoping to blog about it soon. In any
      case, I'd like to come at some of the HOW-TO issues in general
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      <div>cheers</div>
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          <div>On May 16, 2011, at 9:23 PM, Pete Forsyth wrote:</div>
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          <blockquote type="cite">On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 10:36 AM,
            Sarah Stierch <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:sarah@sarahstierch.com" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=sarah@sarahstierch.com">sarah@sarahstierch.com</a>&gt;</span>
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                      <pre>Anybody interested in tackling this issue?
-Pete
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                  I'm working on diving into the HOW-TO this summer for
                  Wiki. I do want to see all of these topics covered -
                  and I'll contribute in anyway I can. Where do we
                  start? ;-)&nbsp;</div>
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              <div>Hi Sarah,</div>
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              <div>I'd be really happy to work on this with you! (And
                anyone else).</div>
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              <div>My sense is that there's a lot of work to do in
                identifying the problem -- or rather, evaluating the
                collection of interrelated issues, and determining where
                it's best to focus. The things that seem significant to
                me are:</div>
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              <div>(1) Picture of the Day on Commons often seems to be
                the source of unnecessary strife (moreso than, say, PotD
                on English Wikipedia);</div>
              <div>(2) It appears that there is not a clearly identified
                set of editorial values around what DOES constitute a
                worthwhile PotD on Commons;</div>
              <div>(3) The technical and social processes for setting a
                PotD are difficult to understand and poorly documented.</div>
              <div><br>
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              <div>How about if we collaborate a bit on documenting how
                things currently work? I think that process will point
                the way toward recommending a solution.</div>
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              <div>I've set up a page for this project, if you're game!&nbsp;<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Peteforsyth/PotD">http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Peteforsyth/PotD</a></div>
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              <div>-Pete</div>
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