[Foundation-l] Show community consensus for Wikilove
Amir E. Aharoni
amir.aharoni at mail.huji.ac.il
Sat Oct 29 13:59:09 UTC 2011
Getting the dreaded community consensus for useful features and fixes
is indeed a painful experience and i'm not joking.
One way to counter it is to present the communities with results of
research that has been conducted and shown that these features
actually achieve something positive.
Was such research conducted about WikiLove?
2011/10/29 Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com>:
> Given that the English Wikipedia has a problem, its page views is going
> down for instance, there is a well documented division between the oldies
> and the newbies. There is a natural attrition as well as open conflict
> resulting in their being not as many editors as there used to be.
> Wikilove, the dashboard are all mechanisms to show appreciation and learn
> from newbies. This functionality is developed with the English Wikipedia in
> My question what is the point in stagnating in old functionality when the
> established community is to approve new features especially new features
> not addressing the needs of the established community and seeking consensus
> only once these features have been developed?
> With respect, these features are introduced, experience is gained and
> consequently these features will be adapted. Does constant community
> consensus make sense and if so what is it that you hope to achieve? How is
> a no going to help given the need for a more healthy English community ?
> On 29 October 2011 14:49, WereSpielChequers <werespielchequers at gmail.com>wrote:
>> > Message: 1
>> > Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 15:31:07 -0700
>> > From: Brandon Harris <bharris at wikimedia.org>
>> > Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] On certain shallow, American-centered,
>> > foolish software initiatives backed by WMF
>> > To: foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org
>> > Message-ID: <4EAB2D2B.3020803 at wikimedia.org>
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>> > On 10/28/11 3:27 PM, Etienne Beaule wrote:
>> > > It's disabled on certain wikis because of technical problems.
>> > >
>> > Oh? I wasn't aware that it had been disabled anywhere as yet.
>> > WikiLove was not rolled out "en mass"; the policy for deployment
>> > the
>> > tool is that it is by request only, and the requesting wiki must:
>> > a) Make sure the tool is localized (via TranslateWiki);
>> > b) Make sure they have a local configuration; and
>> > c) Show community consensus.
>> > So if it was enabled and then *disabled*, I have not heard of
>> > Is
>> > there a bug report I can look to? Or if you know of a wiki where this
>> > is the case, I can do a search.
>> > Thanks!
>> > -b.
>> > --
>> > Brandon Harris, Senior Designer, Wikimedia Foundation
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>> Good to hear that wikilove is only going in on wikis where there is
>> consensus for it. Can anyone give me a link to the discussion that
>> established consensus on EN wikipedia? The nearest I could find was
>> foundation-l mailing list
>> foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org
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