[Foundation-l] News from Germany: White Bags and thinking about a fork

Tobias Oelgarte tobias.oelgarte at googlemail.com
Sun Oct 23 17:46:23 UTC 2011

Am 23.10.2011 19:32, schrieb Ilario Valdelli:
> On 23.10.2011 19:05, Tobias Oelgarte wrote:
>>>> The German poll made clear, that not any category based filter will be
>>>> allowed, since category based filtering is unavoidably non-neutral and a
>>>> censorship tool.
>>> Who the hell are you to forbid me or allow me to use a piece of
>>> software? I want to use this category based filter, even if it is
>>> unavoidably non-neutral and a censorship tool. And now what?
>> We are the majority of the contributers that make up the community. We
>> decided that it won't be good for the project and it's goals. We don't
>> forbid you to use an *own* filter. But we don't want a filter to be
>> imposed at the project, because we think, that it is not for the benefit
>> of the project. Point.
>> nya~
> Which project? de.wikipedia or Commons?
> If the filter will be applied to Commons, I assume that de.wikipedia
> must be conform with the decision of the other communities.
> Ilario
That does not mean that the German community is willed to show a button 
on it's pages to enable it. It will just be disabled and all 
flagged/marked/categorized/discriminated/... images will be copied from 
commons to the local project to remove the flagging, if necessary.

Alternatively the project could think about "forking", which would 
remove the yearly hassle from the German verein to calculate the 
spendings and to give away the corresponding money to the foundation...

But it's nice to see that the per project-results of the filter are 
released. It is as expected. The average for importance reaches from 
3,34 to 8,17 on a scale from 0 to 10. That means, that single projects 
have a very different viewpoint on this topic and a very different kind 
of need.


There is no way that this result could justify the approach to impose an 
global image filter on all projects. We also have to ask the question: 
What will happen to commons, which is shared by all projects?


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