[Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen at gmail.com
Sun May 8 13:59:12 UTC 2011


Hoi,
The wp.org is probably for sale ... It makes more sense to acquire that
domain.
Thanks,
      GerardM

On 8 May 2011 15:18, Martijn Hoekstra <martijnhoekstra at gmail.com> wrote:

> Back to the issue at hand though: Thomas is (quite generously)
> offering the enwp.org domain. Would the foundation like to have it?
>
> On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 6:58 AM, Mono mium <monomium at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I looked into this once...the domain price was quite steep or I would
> > have gotten it. However, a donation might be possible.
> >
> > On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Waldir Pimenta <waldir at email.com> wrote:
> >> On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 10:27 PM, Béria Lima <berialima at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I preffer wp.org (if is possible) to make internationalization easier.
> So
> >>> to
> >>> en.wiki would be "en.wp.org", de.wiki "de.wp.org" and etc.
> >>>
> >>
> >> For the record (sorry I'm late btw :P), I had independently contacted
> the
> >> owners of wp.org shortly before this thread came up, and they basically
> said
> >> that even though they supported Wikipedia (they had even donated in the
> >> past), the domain has too much potential value (WordPress, the
> Washington
> >> Post, etc) for them to hand it over.
> >>
> >> I also thought about this multi-language facet of Wikimedia, which is
> >> further aggravated by the existence of multiple projects. That is, even
> >> wp.org would have problems too, since we'd then need to get one for
> >> wikinews, commons, etc. The best solution would be IMO getting the
> domain *
> >> wi.ki*, since this could be adapted either through prefixes (i.e.,
> >> subdomains, such as en.wi.ki) or suffixes (e.g. wi.ki/en) for languages
> >> and/or project codes. In addition to that we could generate links as the
> >> current shorteners do, like wi.ki/x23yz.
> >>
> >> Now, the wi.ki domain at first seems to be unused, but
> >> http://whois.nic.kireveals it is registered at least until 9 Jan 2012,
> >> by
> >> domaininfo.com. A search on that page reveals that wi.ki is not
> available
> >> for registration, but seems to be buyable for 696 €. We could contact
> them
> >> and ask for a partial donation, but it would work best if the request
> comes
> >> from the WMF itself. Before figuring it was already registered, I sent
> an
> >> email to organization that manages the .KI domain. The text of that
> email
> >> might be useful for this effect: http://pastebin.com/L0v6uz1i
> >>
> >> Here's a quote from that message that points out some of the advantages
> of
> >> having these short urls:
> >> *
> >> *
> >>>
> >>> *"[Wikipedia] links are often long and hard to read (for instance:
> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=.ki&oldid=408287624 ), which
> >>> makes them not only inconvenient, but also prone to reproduction
> errors.
> >>> Since the practice of citation is such a critical component of
> journalism
> >>> and scientific publication, minimizing this risk would bring very
> >>> significant benefits for scholars, journalists, and even users who want
> to
> >>> share links in social media.*
> >>>
> >>
> >> So, who supports that we request them a donation of that domain? And is
> >> anyone from the WMF willing to send them the request? (Moka?)
> >>
> >> It's fine if the tech team doesn't want to manage the domain; I'm sure
> >> plenty of volunteers could offer to do that. But it we'd be much more
> likely
> >> to get it in the first place if the request is made officially by the
> WMF.
> >>
> >> So what do you guys think?
> >>
> >> Waldir
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