[Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoekstra at gmail.com
Sun May 8 13:18:24 UTC 2011

Back to the issue at hand though: Thomas is (quite generously)
offering the enwp.org domain. Would the foundation like to have it?

On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 6:58 AM, Mono mium <monomium at gmail.com> wrote:
> I looked into this once...the domain price was quite steep or I would
> have gotten it. However, a donation might be possible.
> On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Waldir Pimenta <waldir at email.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 10:27 PM, Béria Lima <berialima at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I preffer wp.org (if is possible) to make internationalization easier. So
>>> to
>>> en.wiki would be "en.wp.org", de.wiki "de.wp.org" and etc.
>> For the record (sorry I'm late btw :P), I had independently contacted the
>> owners of wp.org shortly before this thread came up, and they basically said
>> that even though they supported Wikipedia (they had even donated in the
>> past), the domain has too much potential value (WordPress, the Washington
>> Post, etc) for them to hand it over.
>> I also thought about this multi-language facet of Wikimedia, which is
>> further aggravated by the existence of multiple projects. That is, even
>> wp.org would have problems too, since we'd then need to get one for
>> wikinews, commons, etc. The best solution would be IMO getting the domain *
>> wi.ki*, since this could be adapted either through prefixes (i.e.,
>> subdomains, such as en.wi.ki) or suffixes (e.g. wi.ki/en) for languages
>> and/or project codes. In addition to that we could generate links as the
>> current shorteners do, like wi.ki/x23yz.
>> Now, the wi.ki domain at first seems to be unused, but
>> http://whois.nic.kireveals it is registered at least until 9 Jan 2012,
>> by
>> domaininfo.com. A search on that page reveals that wi.ki is not available
>> for registration, but seems to be buyable for 696 €. We could contact them
>> and ask for a partial donation, but it would work best if the request comes
>> from the WMF itself. Before figuring it was already registered, I sent an
>> email to organization that manages the .KI domain. The text of that email
>> might be useful for this effect: http://pastebin.com/L0v6uz1i
>> Here's a quote from that message that points out some of the advantages of
>> having these short urls:
>> *
>> *
>>> *"[Wikipedia] links are often long and hard to read (for instance:
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=.ki&oldid=408287624 ), which
>>> makes them not only inconvenient, but also prone to reproduction errors.
>>> Since the practice of citation is such a critical component of journalism
>>> and scientific publication, minimizing this risk would bring very
>>> significant benefits for scholars, journalists, and even users who want to
>>> share links in social media.*
>> So, who supports that we request them a donation of that domain? And is
>> anyone from the WMF willing to send them the request? (Moka?)
>> It's fine if the tech team doesn't want to manage the domain; I'm sure
>> plenty of volunteers could offer to do that. But it we'd be much more likely
>> to get it in the first place if the request is made officially by the WMF.
>> So what do you guys think?
>> Waldir
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