[Foundation-l] Potential ICRA labels for Wikipedia

teun spaans teun.spaans at gmail.com
Mon May 10 16:27:01 UTC 2010


Dear Derk-jan,

As for 1), I think youtube can be compared in populairity and size with
wikipedia, and in videos surpasses commons.
Youtube enables its visitors to tag videos as adult.
see for example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZA22WSVlCZ4

kind regards,
Teun Spaans



On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Derk-Jan Hartman <d.j.hartman at gmail.com>wrote:

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> Dear reader at FOSI,
>
> As a member of the Wikipedia community and the community that develops the
> software on which Wikipedia runs, I come to you with a few questions.
> Over the past years Wikipedia has become more and more popular and
> omnipresent. This has led to enormous problems, because for the first time,
> a largely uncensored system has to work in the boundaries of a world that is
> largely censored. For libraries and schools this means that they want to
> provide Wikipedia and its related projects to their readers, but are
> presented with the problem of what some people might consider, information
> that is not "child-safe". They have several options in that case, either
> blocking completely or using context aware filtering software that may make
> mistakes, that can cost some of these institutions their funding.
>
> Similar problems are starting to present themselves in countries around the
> world, differing views about sexuality between northern and southern europe
> for instance. Add to that the censoring of images of Muhammad, Tiananman
> square, the Nazi Swastika, and a host of other problems. Recently there has
> been concern that all this all-out-censoring of content by parties around
> the world is damaging the education mission of the Wikipedia related
> projects because so many people are not able to access large portions of our
> content due to a small (think 0.01% ) part of our other content.
>
> This has led some people to infer that perhaps it is time to rate the
> content of Wikipedia ourselves, in order to facilitate external censoring of
> material, hopefully making the rest of our content more accessible.
> According to statements around the web ICRA ratings are probably the most
> widely supported rating by filtering systems. Thus we were thinking of
> adding autogenerated ICRA RDF tags to each individual page describing the
> rating of the page and the images contained within them. I have a few
> questions however, both general and technical.
>
> 1: If I am correctly informed, Wikipedia would be the first website of this
> size to label their content with ratings, is this correct?
> 2: How many content filters understand the RDF tags
> 3: How many of those understand multiple labels and path specific labeling.
> This means: if we rate the path of images included on the page different
> from the page itself, do filters block the entire content, or just the
> images ? (Consider the Virgin Killer album cover on the Virgin Killer
> article, if you are aware of that controversial image
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_Killer)
> 4: Do filters understand per page labeling ? Or do they cache the first RDF
> file they encounter on a website and use that for all other pages of the
> website ?
> 5: Is there any chance the vocabulary of ICRA can be expanded with new
> ratings for non-Western world sensitive issues ?
> 6: Is there a possibility of creating a separate "namespace" that we could
> potentially use for our own labels ?
>
> I hope that you can help me answer these questions, so that we may continue
> our community debate with more informed viewpoints about the possibilities
> of content rating. If you have additional suggestions for systems or
> problems that this web-property should account for, I would more than
> welcome those suggestions as well.
>
> Derk-Jan Hartman
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