[Foundation-l] Fwd: Pt-Portuguese Wikipedia

Virgilio A. P. Machado vam at fct.unl.pt
Thu Mar 25 05:16:27 UTC 2010



If you have any further suggestions or comments, they are very welcome.

Please use either the 
sections of the 
page for debate.

Thank you all so very much.


Virgilio A. P. Machado

At 23:41 24-03-2010, you wrote:
>On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Virgilio A. P. 
>Machado <vam at fct.unl.pt> wrote: > Mark, > > A 
>page in the Portuguese Wikipedia could shut 
>out > the community at large. A bilingual page 
>would be > very hard to pull off. As far as I 
>can tell, > non-Portuguese discussions are not 
>welcomed there. > > I looked at Meta and saw no 
>place for a page like > that. Could you be more 
>specific? > > That's why I brought the question 
>to the list: I > really don't know where a 
>discussion like that > could take place within 
>the projects of the Wikimedia Foundation. > > 
>Going back to my initial posting: > > «Perhaps 
>the question is not the creation of a > new 
>version of Wikipedia, but to make the > 
>Portuguese Wikipedia appealing to all readers 
>and > writers (editors) of the Portuguese 
>language. > There might be solutions and 
>proposals to address > this problem which have 
>been kept from seeing the > light of day, for 
>untold reasons. > > It might be worthwhile to 
>open a page where the > discussion could be 
>centralized.» > > Like Chad pointed out, even 
>within this > discussion, there have been posts 
>suggesting > several helpful rules and technical 
>approaches. > Solutions from different projects 
>could be > brought together and would be 
>available for all > those where they might be 
>useful. This would make > the discussion less 
>specific to the Portuguese > Wikipedia but more 
>valuable to the Wikimedia > community. Even with 
>that broader scope I don't > know where to 
>start. If there's not already a > place like 
>that, where would it appropriate to create 
>one? > > Sincerely, > > Virgilio A. P. 
>Machado > > > At 17:44 24-03-2010, you 
>wrote: >>I think there are two options: Meta and 
>pt.wp itself. My personal opinion is >>that it 
>does not need to be bilingual, but that is of 
>course up to you. >> >>On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 
>5:17 PM, Virgilio A. P. Machado 
><vam at fct.unl.pt>wrote: >> >> > Thanks Chad. I 
>know that, but what kind of page (what title)? 
>Where? >> > Would it be alright to be 
>bilingual? >> > >> > Sincerely, >> > >> > 
>Virgilio A. P. Machado >> > >> > >> > At 23:25 
>23-03-2010, you wrote: >> > >It requires you to 
>take initiative to start the page and try to 
>draw >> > >others into a discussion. You don't 
>need anyone's permission to do >> > >that. Also, 
>I think it was (briefly) glossed over before, 
>but there >> > >/is/ the Language Converter code 
>in MediaWiki that could be >> > >leveraged to 
>help some here. I don't think it's necessarily a 
>magic >> > >bullet, but it's worth exploring. I 
>know nothing in Portuguese, so I >> > >don't 
>really grasp how widespread the discrepancies 
>are, but I >> > >assume there's rules to 
>describe them. Social solutions are 
>also >> > >helpful, like the aforementioned 
>American/British and Cyrillic/Latin >> > >issues 
>mentioned earlier in the thread. A combination 
>of social and >> > >technical solutions might 
>just help bring some closure to 
>this >> > >issue. 
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>[[Portuguese language issues]] or something. I'm 
>not a regular metapedian, so there might be a 
>better place--I just can't think of a *specific* 
>place offhand. -Chad 
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