[Foundation-l] Fwd: Pt-Portuguese Wikipedia

Chad innocentkiller at gmail.com
Wed Mar 24 23:41:48 UTC 2010

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Virgilio A. P. Machado <vam at fct.unl.pt> wrote:
> Mark,
> A page in the Portuguese Wikipedia could shut out
> the community at large. A bilingual page would be
> very hard to pull off. As far as I can tell,
> non-Portuguese discussions are not welcomed there.
> I looked at Meta and saw no place for a page like
> that. Could you be more specific?
> That's why I brought the question to the list: I
> really don't know where a discussion like that
> could take place within the projects of the Wikimedia Foundation.
> Going back to my initial posting:
> «Perhaps the question is not the creation of a
> new version of Wikipedia, but to make the
> Portuguese Wikipedia appealing to all readers and
> writers (editors) of the Portuguese language.
> There might be solutions and proposals to address
> this problem which have been kept from seeing the
> light of day, for untold reasons.
> It might be worthwhile to open a page where the
> discussion could be centralized.»
> Like Chad pointed out, even within this
> discussion, there have been posts suggesting
> several helpful rules and technical approaches.
> Solutions from different projects could be
> brought together and would be available for all
> those where they might be useful. This would make
> the discussion less specific to the Portuguese
> Wikipedia but more valuable to the Wikimedia
> community. Even with that broader scope I don't
> know where to start. If there's not already a
> place like that, where would it appropriate to create one?
> Sincerely,
> Virgilio A. P. Machado
> At 17:44 24-03-2010, you wrote:
>>I think there are two options: Meta and pt.wp itself. My personal opinion is
>>that it does not need to be bilingual, but that is of course up to you.
>>On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 5:17 PM, Virgilio A. P. Machado <vam at fct.unl.pt>wrote:
>> > Thanks Chad. I know that, but what kind of page (what title)? Where?
>> > Would it be alright to be bilingual?
>> >
>> > Sincerely,
>> >
>> > Virgilio A. P. Machado
>> >
>> >
>> > At 23:25 23-03-2010, you wrote:
>> > >It requires you to take initiative to start the page and try to draw
>> > >others into a discussion. You don't need anyone's permission to do
>> > >that. Also, I think it was (briefly) glossed over before, but there
>> > >/is/ the Language Converter code in MediaWiki that could be
>> > >leveraged to help some here. I don't think it's necessarily a magic
>> > >bullet, but it's worth exploring. I know nothing in Portuguese, so I
>> > >don't really grasp how widespread the discrepancies are, but I
>> > >assume there's rules to describe them. Social solutions are also
>> > >helpful, like the aforementioned American/British and Cyrillic/Latin
>> > >issues mentioned earlier in the thread. A combination of social and
>> > >technical solutions might just help bring some closure to this
>> > >issue. -Chad
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For lack of anywhere else, start it up at [[Portuguese language issues]]
or something. I'm not a regular metapedian, so there might be a better
place--I just can't think of a *specific* place offhand.


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