[Foundation-l] Sakha Wikipedia passed 7000 articles

[Michael Peel]

Erm ... huh?

1) If you're interested in helping, and have experience/knowledge of languages, then get involved with the committee.

2) They're getting things achieved - they're fostering the development of new language projects, making decisions, getting the projects started, and doing this in a very effective way. Compare this with the ineffectual procedure for starting an entirely new project in any language, which hasn't gotten anywhere in the last 3(?) years.

3) Please point to _recent_ examples where they've made a bad choice (i.e. Klingon doesn't count, as that was before their time). I'm not aware of any.

I agree that it's not good that they have a hidden discussion forum; as much as possible of the discussion leading up to a new project should be public, and i can't see a reason for secrecy. Apart from that, though, I don't understand these (somewhat bitchy) comments at all...

Mike

On 25 Aug 2010, at 21:21, Mohamed Ibrahim wrote:

> On 25 August 2010 23:01, Muhammad Yahia <shipmaster at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Mark Williamson <node.ue at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I think it has been proven many times over now that the Language
>>> Committee works in mysterious ways with little or no community
>>> oversight or input, essentially a self-appointed committee of
>>> "experts", mostly from similar linguistic backgrounds, handing down
>>> judgements about the rest of the world's languages from their
>>> overwhelmingly European ivory tower. It seems we as a community of
>>> people who care deeply about the future of potential new languages and
>>> the success of existing language versions within our Wikimedia
>>> community have no choice but to watch from the sidelines as they do
>>> what they please.
>>> 
>>> -m.
>>> 
>>> 
>> +1
>> 
>> Add to that the fact that a portion of their discussion archives is
>> deliberately hidden from the public as if they are debating state security
>> issues. So even after a decision is taken, we only have a patchy view of
>> the
>> process that led to that decision.
>> 
>> --
>> Best Regards,
>> Muhammad Yahia
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> 
> I agree with what Muhammad and Mark has said
> it's a pity that such resolutions that affect the whole community is
> controlled like this..
> resulting in such projects that really make Wikimedia looks like a host for
> childish projects that's
> written in a funny language never seen written before in
> any respectable scientific book, website, etc..
> 
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