[Foundation-l] Pissed off at en:Wikisource

John Vandenberg jayvdb at gmail.com
Wed Mar 11 08:49:08 UTC 2009

On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 7:05 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter <putevod at mccme.ru> wrote:
>> Hello,
>> I think this is a communety thing. Its to bad that you lost your
>> adminship but why should people from other projects step in?
>> I mean this is something on the en.source not a global thing.
>> huib
>> --
> I have no idea of the en.ws situation, nor do I want to have any idea, but
> I would like to remark that leaving such things to the community decision
> is a good idea only if the community itself is big enough. Otherwise, it
> is easy for a group of individuals, or even for an individual to introduce
> their own rules which may be incompatible with the general purposes of the
> project. In this case, an external help may be needed. For instance, this
> is what happened a year ago on ru.wb when the only admin has been
> desysopped after it has been discovered and reported on this very list
> that he arbitrarily abused and blocked other users and removed edits.
> Again, I am not really aware of the situation on en.ws, I have no idea
> whether this project is big enough to solve their own problems within the
> project, and I do not want to make any statements about any users over
> there. (As a matter of fact, I never logged in to en.ws). I just wanted to
> say that not every project is capable with solving its own problems.

I agree with this.  English Wikisource does not have a mediation
framework, and I didnt participate in that desysop discussion as much
as I should have, due to time constraints.  The next step would be a
meta RFC, or something like an offwiki discussion.  I am happy to
participate in something like that if it would help.

What I will say now is that Eclecticology is a great contributor to
the English Wikisource project, and I hope he continues to be.  The
main project that he has been working on, [[s:Dictionary of National
Biography, 1885-1900]], has been exempt from the structure imposed on
the rest of the project, as a way of reducing the tensions.

John Vandenberg

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