[Foundation-l] FlaggedRevs on Hungarian Wikipedia still not working

[Marcus Buck]

Birgitte SB hett schreven:
> I hope someone is able to shortly fix this issue for you.
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> However I think you have a mistaken idea about WMF. The reason people are wanted to join meta-projects is to ensure that their local wikis issues are understood. The meta-projects *are* hu.WP's projects, not competition for hu.WP. If you, or someone like you, is not part of foundation discussions to both speak up about hu.WP concerns and also to better inform hu.WP discussions about larger issues and trends, then how can hu.WP be properly cared for? Certainly everyone here wishes success for hu.WP and that her volunteers are active and happy.  But for the most part, people here are not some abstract "WMF-people" who have neglected hu.WP.  We are en.WS people or fr.WP people or de.WP people. 
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> I originally joined this list much like you did. Rather upset at what felt was attacks on en.WS's sincere efforts to do the right thing and general lack of help for us. These "WMF-people" had been talking about en.WS and saying we would have to delete the UK Hunting Act. I came here hoping to convince these people to actually help us: tell us exactly what copyright allows (very naive I know) rather than just dictating that our stuff be deleted without clarification.  But I discovered that these "WMF-people" were no more than people just like me.  Passionate people who found their way here with their feet still firmly planted in their own particular interests. They meant no harm to en.WS, but en.WS didn't rate very high in their concerns either.  I quickly realized that someone from en.WS better keep on top of things here, before our interests got inadvertently squashed by someones pet issue.  Or we merely got forgotten.  
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> So I understand how you might be hoping for for solutions and answers to be found here. I certainly did, but I learned it was a mistake to think there was such authority here. You will find opinions and ideas here. Sometimes you may find needed attention. (I hope this is the case today!) But the only real answer for solving hu.WP issues is to see that hu.WP is in WMF.  hu.WP people must be in WMF people. hu.WP developers must be in WMF developers. hu.WP projects must be in WMF projects.  Then hu.WP will find real answers and solutions.  Or at least, they will find answers and solutions as well as anyone does.
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> Birgitte SB
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Well, on a general participation level it's all true, what you are 
saying. But looking at the actual issue "Flagged Revs at hu.wp" it's 
very clear: The Foundation pays staff to do administrative tasks local 
projects cannot do. It's their job to do it. And they haven't done the 
necessary steps in six weeks. Tisza/hu.wp have done what they needed to 
do: File a bug at Bugzilla. If the coordination would work properly that 
should suffice to get the job done. It didn't. He searched to directly 
contact people who can help about this. And that didn't help too. So 
it's not Tisza's fault, he did it all right. The problem lies at the 
foundation level. Some processes are broken.

There are two possible solutions: If we don't have enough manpower to 
handle all requests and bugs than the foundation should hire more staff 
(with millions in donations flowing in that should be no big problem). 
The second solution (the cheaper one) would be to create an interface, 
that allows local bureaucrats to switch on or off a set of approved 
extensions on their project. The interface would then run the needed 
scripts automatically. This interface needs to be written, but that's 
only one time and it will save much time and effort in the future.

Marcus Buck
User:Slomox