[Foundation-l] Email list archives

[Pavlo Shevelo]

> For me Google Groups do a good job and it's enough.

Yes, I would support the proposal to look at Google Groups (as
alternative mailing list platform) closer.
As we can see Wikimedia Brasil and Wikimedia UK are using that
platform and perhaps not only them (I'm pushing this platform for
Wikimedia Ukraine while we started from Mailman-based list, provided
by WMF).

> For me the main usability of using Google Groups is for making
> reference for a previous post.
Not just that. Some people appreciate option to reply to the posting
by web-interface (without necessity to copy-paste anything from one
browser window to another etc.).


> ... I believe it's important to maintain
> archived Wikimedia mailing lists discussions on their own server

If I'm not mistaken you mean that in any case (that is whatever
platform will be used) WMF should have ('maintain') archive of mailing
list on  WMF' own servers. Right?

And it that context
> Two volunteers have said there are various scripts for archiving
> mailing lists. I'll ask them.

are you talking about script which is able to copy (like backup or so)
Google Group archive to Mailman-formatted archive to be saved on WMF
servers?

Do you have any experience with usage of special Google group control
defining that mail archive will be out - on some proprietary  servers
(if I'm not mistaken in understanding meaning of that control)?

Regards,

Pavlo

On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 1:05 AM, Everton Zanella
Alvarenga<everton137 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 2009/8/15 Andrew Turvey <andrewrturvey at googlemail.com>:
>
>> When I subscribe to an email list I tend to get emails delivered, but I sometimes find it useful to view older emails on the archive. I know some people like to read all their emails on the archive, so this is also important for them. It is also useful when you have to make a publicly accessible reference to a previous post.
>
> We've, recently, discussed about this on WikimediaBR-l and someone
> pointed out Google Groups archiving solution.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/wikimediabr-l/topics
>
> For me the main usability of using Google Groups is for making
> reference for a previous post. Someone even asked if Wikimedia would
> mind about the archiving using a third party platform. Do you all
> think there is some problem?
>
>> The line spacing looks funny with the first and you still lose the text formatting with the second.
>
> For me Google Groups do a good job and it's enough. It's software just
> convert HTML formatted texts to plain texts, which I believe it more
> adequate for email communication.
>
>> Has anyone got any tips about how I can either format an email to begin with or view the email afterwards to solve this problem?
>>
>> Secondly, has this technology been developed recently? Seems it needs a bit of investment, or alternatively, we need to move over to a better third party platform like, perhaps, Yahoo Groups.
>
> Two volunteers have said there are various scripts for archiving
> mailing lists. I'll ask them. I believe it's important to maintain
> archived Wikimedia mailing lists discussions on their own server, but
> I don't see any problem in using third party platforms for purposes
> such as making easier reference for the topics.
>
> See you,
>
> Tom
>
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