[Foundation-l] On Arabic and sub-language proposals.

Birgitte SB birgitte_sb at yahoo.com
Thu Oct 9 08:37:16 UTC 2008


It no more a political stand to grant Egyptian Arabic speakers a platform than it would be to deny them a platform.  Remember people actually solicited WMF for this Wikipedia to exist.  Making a decision either way on such a request is not a political stand. 


Birgitte SB

--- On Thu, 10/9/08, Muhammad Alsebaey <shipmaster at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Muhammad Alsebaey <shipmaster at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] On Arabic and sub-language proposals.
> To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List" <foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
> Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 2:01 AM
> It is not a political stand that the first body of written
> non-fiction work
> published in Egyptian Arabic will be on Wikipedia? I said
> before that there
> is an ongoing debate in Egypt about the adoption of
> Egyptian Arabic as
> written in addition to being spoken in order to bolster the
> national
> identity of Egypt. This debate is currently dead in the
> water AFAIK, with a
> lot of argument going for and against. Wikipedia hosting
> the first
> non-fiction written work *is* a political stand in this
> debate IMHO.
> 
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 11:24 PM, Ting Chen
> <wing.philopp at gmx.de> wrote:
> 
> > Muhammad Alsebaey wrote:
> > > Hi Ting,
> > >
> > > In the days since I have first sent my email, I
> talked to several people,
> > > and due to their arguments, I am less worried now
> about division of
> > effort,
> > > however, I still strongly believe that my
> arguments about the language
> > being
> > > mostly a spoken one with no stable orthography
> and that by WMF approving
> > any
> > > of those dialects/language, it will be
> essentially making a political
> > stand,
> > > still hold.
> > >
> > No, I don't think that we make any political
> stand. For me politics is
> > neither an argument for nor against anything. If you
> are saying that the
> > LangCom is political insensitive, for me it is not a
> failure. For me it
> > is a merit.
> >
> > Ting
> >
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> 
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