[Foundation-l] A local chapter without Wikimedians

[Geoffrey Plourde]

Beria,

I meant no offense by my remarks. I apologize if any was taken, that was not the point. By disruptive, I was not referring to Luiz, but the request to kill a chapter, for the reasons listed below. 

I don't believe that killing the manifestation of thousands of hours of work is going to solve any dispute. I am going off what we have currently. As far as I can see, we have an assertion that work on bylaws was silenced by Thomas. We have two people that vouch for his character (Mr. Wales, you). We do not have any hard evidence proving that Thomas killed the discussion. If there is some, we should see it. Otherwise, it appears that this is simple dissatisfaction which in my not so humble opinion has no place on this list. 


Since some people may be unable to follow this thread, I have translated my comments into something that resembles Portuguese. 

Respectfully Yours;

Geoffrey Plourde

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Beria, 

Eu quis dizer que não ofenda por minhas observações.
Peço desculpas se alguma foi tomada, não foi esse o ponto. Por
perturbador, não me referia ao Luiz, mas o pedido de matar um capítulo,
pelos motivos listados abaixo. 

Não creio que matar a
manifestação de milhares de horas de trabalho está indo para resolver
qualquer litígio. Eu vou desligar o que temos actualmente. Tanto quanto
eu posso ver, temos um trabalho em alegação de que foi silenciada pelo
Estatuto Social Thomas. Temos duas pessoas que atestam a sua personagem
(Mr. País de Gales, você). Nós não temos qualquer evidência sólida de
provar que Thomas mataram a discussão. Se houver algum, que devemos
encará-la. Caso contrário, parece que este é simples insatisfação que,
na minha modesta opinião não assim não tem lugar nesta lista. 

Uma vez que algumas pessoas pode não ser capaz de seguir essa linha, eu
tenho o meu comentário traduzido em algo que se assemelha Português. 

Yours respeitosamente;

Geoffrey Plourde


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From: Béria Lima <berialima at gmail.com>
To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List <foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 3:08:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] A local chapter without Wikimedians

Geoffrey...

The guy whit you are talking is one of the best sysops on pt.wikipedia.
Don't be maniqueist please.

The case is: Thomas is a good guy... but in the mailing list he stopped all
the process of consensus. The problem is not just a discussion of Porantim
and Thomas... are more of 10 wikipedist that agree whit Porantim, me and
Luiz Augusto. Don't ut that in terms of "dispurtive", "vandal" or anything
about that...

We are discuss the bylaws again... because that mensage of Luiz. Before that
Thomas and another user don't permit the dialog.

Att, Béria Lima

2008/11/25 Geoffrey Plourde <geo.plrd at yahoo.com>

> I agree, why the hell should we blow off a couple thousand hours of work
> and toast a chapter? While there may be some issues in the bylaws and they
> still need to legally organize, there is more support for this chapter than
> some of the European ones.
>
> My friend, this is starting to appear disruptive.
>
>
>
>
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> Luiz Augusto wrote:
> > This is what we need: to stop the current attempt and start it again
>
> Why?
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