[Foundation-l] [WikiEN-l] Lobby takeover of wikimedia projects, particularly English wikipedia

[Chad]

Trying to game the system to push a point is disruptive. I believe
most communities pretty much accept the standard of "disruption
leads to blocking." Yes, they are subverting, but what difference
would a Foundation resolution make? It's not as though it would
make lobbyists suddenly admit themselves and say "Ah, you caught
me."

-Chad

On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 10:16 AM, White Cat
<wikipedia.kawaii.neko at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Florence Devouard <Anthere9 at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>> White Cat wrote:
>> > Although it is a well known issue, this issue has finally made its way to
>> > spotlight with the ongoing CAMERA incident on English wikipedia... I am
>> sure
>> > English wikipedia's arbcom will come up with a reasonable conclusion and
>> the
>> > purpose of this email is not related to the CAMERA arbcom case directly.
>>
>> Which is good because it is likely most editors on Foundation mailing
>> have no idea what the CAMERA incident is...
>>
>
> Yes, I know that. Which is the reason why I posted it on Foundation-l as
> well as Wiki-en-l
>
>
>> [...]
>> > I recommend that foundation pass a ruling on the matter of lobby
>> takeovers.
>>
>> Which type of ruling are you thinking of ?
>>
>> Ant
>>
>
> I am not entirely certain. Some sort of a *carefully worded* statement that
> unwelcome systematic pov pushing. Really should go without saying...
>
> This has happened many times before. Just to refresh your memory the Danish
> Mohammed cartoon controversy, Youtube/Facebook based campaign to remove all
> depictions of Mohamed from wikipedia, CAMERA incident are a few of the more
> notable cases.
>
> While English wikipedia is somewhat prepared to deal with such issues, other
> wikis are quite ill prepared. It would immensely help if there was a global
> rule on this issue.
>
> Stewards will not be able to step in unless this is a general rule I think.
> Or at least such a ruling would untie the hands of stewards and locals
> alike.
>
>   - White Cat
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