[Foundation-l] Stable versions live on de.wp

effe iets anders effeietsanders at gmail.com
Thu May 8 10:50:50 UTC 2008


Maybe a weird suggestion, but you could of course look at the Dutch
Wikipedia how they are doing things. As you might recall, nlwikipedia
is one of the few, and at least the largest Wikimedia projects using
MarkAsPatrolled. Which is, to some extent, similar (also about
flagging, but not so much versions, but changes). There are a few
systems and tools in use that might appear to be handy in dewiki as
well.

BR, Lodewijk

2008/5/8, Andrew Gray <shimgray op gmail.com>:
> 2008/5/8 Magnus Manske <magnusmanske op googlemail.com>:
>
> >  I think Lars calls FlaggedRevs "soft locking" and doesn't want to
> >  apply it on a large scale.
> >
> >  IMHO FlaggedRevs are much different from protection/locking. The
> >  purpose of FlaggedRevs is to present the uninitiated audience with a
> >  vandalism-free Wikipedia. Applying FlaggedRevs to only a few pages
> >  will not achieve that.
>
> I think Lars' worry is (partly) a matter of update rates leading to
> locking-through-inertia.
>
> Yes, we can purge through all existing pages and set a flag on them -
> indeed, it's an excellent opportunity to do so, and it means that
> hopefully all pages will get eyeballed to make them clean.
>
> But! What happens next? If I go off and update a short article (one
> which no-one has watchlisted, etc) on de.wp, what mechanism is in
> place to flag *that* revision? Is it possible that on non-high-traffic
> pages, an "old" revision could remain the newest flagged one for
> weeks, months, despite having been superceded?
>
> I can see how this would have the effect of soft-locking - I'd really
> like to know how we plan to get round it.
>
> Automatically generated reports of all pages with the most recent edit
> "unflagged", sorted by age, perhaps? This'd allow the permitted users
> to knock off a few each a day, keep it churning over. The sort of
> thing that would appeal to inveterate RC patrollers ;-)
>
> --
> - Andrew Gray
>  andrew.gray op dunelm.org.uk
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