[Foundation-l] Allow new wikis in extinct languages?

[Mark Williamson]

How about native - where applicable? I think it is a great
requirement... except when it comes to languages with no native
speakers. Then we should require fluent speakers, not just interested
hobbyists who use a dictionary like Jose77.

Mark

On 29/03/2008, Geoffrey Plourde <geo.plrd at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Yes I agree strike native and lets go back to if enough people are interested.
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>  From: Marcus Buck <me at marcusbuck.org>
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>  Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 4:47:52 PM
>  Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Allow new wikis in extinct languages?
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> > But that is my opinion. What do you think; should wikis be allowed in
>  > every extinct language?
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> In my opinion, Pathoschild is a bit unhonest here. As far as I know,
>  nobody ever proposed to allow _every_ language. His post on this list is
>  based on the discussion here:
>  <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Language_subcommittee#Latina_Wikipedia_Closing_and_hellenic_Wikipedia_opening>.
>
>  Somebody proposed a Wikipedia in Classical Greek a long time ago and the
>  proposal was rejected based on the "Language proposal policy", which
>  does not allow for projects in languages with no native speakers. But
>  actually the word "native" was inserted by Pathoschild only in October
>  2007. At that time the proposal for a Classical Greek project was
>  already running for 14 months.
>
>  The current policy wouldn't allow for a Wikipedia in Latin nor for a
>  Wikipedia in Esperanto. I think, this is proof, that the current policy
>  is failing. If the UN (hypothetically) would adopt a new constructed
>  language as new worldwide lingua franca, there would be no way no create
>  a wikipedia in this world language under current policy until this
>  language would develop a native community, which would take some decades
>  at least. The policy fails.
>
>  Get rid of the word "native" in the policy. Base decisions on the
>  ability to build a viable and useful resource and not on physical
>  features of the language.
>  In my opinion Classical Greek can form a viable community and build a
>  useful resource. Some of you may think "He only wants to push his pet
>  language Greek!" No, I actually have nothing to do with Greek and I
>  prefer spoken languages to scholarly languages. I only jumped into the
>  discussion, cause I realized Greek was about to go being denied for
>  reasons of policy-nitpicking only.
>
>  Marcus Buck
>  Slomox
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