[Foundation-l] Allow new wikis in extinct languages?

Geoffrey Plourde geo.plrd at yahoo.com
Sun Mar 30 01:12:34 UTC 2008


Yes I agree strike native and lets go back to if enough people are interested.



----- Original Message ----
From: Marcus Buck <me at marcusbuck.org>
To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List <foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 4:47:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Allow new wikis in extinct languages?

>
> But that is my opinion. What do you think; should wikis be allowed in
> every extinct language?
In my opinion, Pathoschild is a bit unhonest here. As far as I know, 
nobody ever proposed to allow _every_ language. His post on this list is 
based on the discussion here: 
<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Language_subcommittee#Latina_Wikipedia_Closing_and_hellenic_Wikipedia_opening>.

Somebody proposed a Wikipedia in Classical Greek a long time ago and the 
proposal was rejected based on the "Language proposal policy", which 
does not allow for projects in languages with no native speakers. But 
actually the word "native" was inserted by Pathoschild only in October 
2007. At that time the proposal for a Classical Greek project was 
already running for 14 months.

The current policy wouldn't allow for a Wikipedia in Latin nor for a 
Wikipedia in Esperanto. I think, this is proof, that the current policy 
is failing. If the UN (hypothetically) would adopt a new constructed 
language as new worldwide lingua franca, there would be no way no create 
a wikipedia in this world language under current policy until this 
language would develop a native community, which would take some decades 
at least. The policy fails.

Get rid of the word "native" in the policy. Base decisions on the 
ability to build a viable and useful resource and not on physical 
features of the language.
In my opinion Classical Greek can form a viable community and build a 
useful resource. Some of you may think "He only wants to push his pet 
language Greek!" No, I actually have nothing to do with Greek and I 
prefer spoken languages to scholarly languages. I only jumped into the 
discussion, cause I realized Greek was about to go being denied for 
reasons of policy-nitpicking only.

Marcus Buck
Slomox

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