[Foundation-l] Allow new wikis in extinct languages?

[Geoffrey Plourde]

Why do we need natives? Just because someone natively speaks Chumash does not mean that there will be enough interest for a wiki. If enough people are willing to display an interest in Hupa, who are we to nitpick?

Mark Williamson <node.ue at gmail.com> wrote:  How about native - where applicable? I think it is a great
requirement... except when it comes to languages with no native
speakers. Then we should require fluent speakers, not just interested
hobbyists who use a dictionary like Jose77.

Mark

On 29/03/2008, Geoffrey Plourde wrote:
> Yes I agree strike native and lets go back to if enough people are interested.
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> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Marcus Buck 
> To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List 
> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 4:47:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Allow new wikis in extinct languages?
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> > But that is my opinion. What do you think; should wikis be allowed in
> > every extinct language?
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> In my opinion, Pathoschild is a bit unhonest here. As far as I know,
> nobody ever proposed to allow _every_ language. His post on this list is
> based on the discussion here:
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> Somebody proposed a Wikipedia in Classical Greek a long time ago and the
> proposal was rejected based on the "Language proposal policy", which
> does not allow for projects in languages with no native speakers. But
> actually the word "native" was inserted by Pathoschild only in October
> 2007. At that time the proposal for a Classical Greek project was
> already running for 14 months.
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> The current policy wouldn't allow for a Wikipedia in Latin nor for a
> Wikipedia in Esperanto. I think, this is proof, that the current policy
> is failing. If the UN (hypothetically) would adopt a new constructed
> language as new worldwide lingua franca, there would be no way no create
> a wikipedia in this world language under current policy until this
> language would develop a native community, which would take some decades
> at least. The policy fails.
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> Get rid of the word "native" in the policy. Base decisions on the
> ability to build a viable and useful resource and not on physical
> features of the language.
> In my opinion Classical Greek can form a viable community and build a
> useful resource. Some of you may think "He only wants to push his pet
> language Greek!" No, I actually have nothing to do with Greek and I
> prefer spoken languages to scholarly languages. I only jumped into the
> discussion, cause I realized Greek was about to go being denied for
> reasons of policy-nitpicking only.
>
> Marcus Buck
> Slomox
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