[Foundation-l] Stalking Article

Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen at gmail.com
Tue Jun 10 21:12:46 UTC 2008


Hoi,
There are people including administrators and bureaucrats that have been
threatened in this way. It is not an exception, it is not localised to just
one language or project. There are in my opinion two things that have to
happen concurrently.

   - Any and all threads that is of such a close, personal and brutal nature
   needs to get the attention that it deserved.
   - We need to understand what it is that triggers these attacks. What it
   is that we can do to be less of an easy target as a project and as a
   wikiMedian

Particularly the second question may get us suggestions that are not obvious
and even counter intuitive. It takes people who understand these issues,
people that have experience in dealing with such things that are best placed
to help us. They are likely to be professional psychologists or specialists
of a similar ilk. It is for these reasons that it is important to learn if
and to what extend the Wikimedia Foundation is willing and able to play a
role in this.

As we find that stalkers are a fact of life, we have to know how to deal
with them. Being in denial of what is happening is the worst service we do
to ourself and to those that are victimised.
Thanks,
       GerardM

On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 3:07 PM, Birgitte SB <birgitte_sb at yahoo.com> wrote:

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> --- On Tue, 6/10/08, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > From: Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Stalking Article
> > To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List" <
> foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
> > Date: Tuesday, June 10, 2008, 4:07 AM
> > Ray,
> > We are talking about people who on or off list threaten
> > others to kill, maim
> > and rape. We are talking about people associated with
> > aggressive pov pushing
> > and using any means whatsoever to establish their pov.
> > There have been
> > several examples given of this behaviour by credible
> > people. Suggesting as
> > you do that there is no idea that we are talking about it
> > not where we are
> > at.
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> I am a bit lost as to what this whole thread is about. Many people seem to
> be speaking with a great deal of allusion where I am not familar enough with
> the backgroun to dechiper it. So can someone clearly tell me if there are
> any current admins or crats on any wiki that are known to have "on or off
> list threaten others to kill, maim and rape"?
>
> Birgitte SB
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